Open Beta Version 3.5.0

peter

DickyDutch Hi Peter I know I have raised this topic before but after using beta now for over a week I still feel that being able to get to the to the pdf editor should be easier.

I will think about this. Maybe a button like the crossfade button?

peter

The button approach feels good. Will be available in the final version or maybe next beta if there are more bugs found in build 7500.

DickyDutch

peter Thank you that looks perfect! After editing and saving the mark ups will the screen return back to where it was - the pdf lyrics view?

peter

DickyDutch Yes, but it will scroll back to top.

Damir

peter yes i understand that but you have no idea what action is in use a tick on the action in use would help if its possible.

peter

Damir yes i understand that but you have no idea what action is in use a tick on the action in use would help if its possible.

I don't think you understand. You perform an action and then it is done. A tick makes absolutely no sense. You can perform that action 5 times in a row if you like.

Damir If you play a standard stero backing track and select AUTO PLAY button then choose the NEXT song to be a LYRICS ONLY song with a TIME SETTING in place, when the stereo backing track finishes it does not obey the auto play request, it basically cues up the next song and stops.

Will fix that.

Damir Select a playlist, then choose the COLOUR option, change the colour of the playlist, you will notice the playlist name on top of screen does not immediately change to this new colour but will be correct if you EXIT playlist then ENTER it again

That was working in 3.4.10. Will fix that.

Damir Play a stereo backing track and open SONG PROPERTIES as its playing you will notice if you make any changes like VOLUME, PITCH, SPEED etc, the impact is immediate, but the visual feedback in the interface does not change immediately unless you exit this window, it would be really great if this was immediate as well.If possible.

Don't think that is possible. Background elements refresh when they become active (meaning the edit window is closed). Will not try to fix.

Damir

If you play a standard stero backing track and select AUTO PLAY button then choose the NEXT song to be a LYRICS ONLY song with a TIME SETTING in place, when the stereo backing track finishes it does not obey the auto play request, it basically cues up the next song and stops.
It should choose the next song and auto play as requested.
This is not consistent behaviour.

Damir

Select a playlist, then choose the COLOUR option, change the colour of the playlist, you will notice the playlist name on top of screen does not immediately change to this new colour but will be correct if you EXIT playlist then ENTER it again, i know its a small find which hopefully means we dont have other major problems.
I really like the new PLAYLIST EDIT its now a lot more useful.

Damir

Play a stereo backing track and open SONG PROPERTIES as its playing you will notice if you make any changes like VOLUME, PITCH, SPEED etc, the impact is immediate, but the visual feedback in the interface does not change immediately unless you exit this window, it would be really great if this was immediate as well.If possible.

It seems like exiting SONG PROPERTIES actually executes the change to the screen yet it is an immediate command to the actual functions.

Damir

Observation and suggestion.

DickyDutch

Hello Peter I’d like to raise the subject of pdf page numbering. At the moment from the lyrics view there is no indication as to whether a pdf is single or multi page and if the latter, which page you are on. I find this important myself but get over it by putting page numbering on the pdf itself (e.g. page 2 of 6) - then I know where I am! However for some other users this may not be as simple. If say they are reading charts prepared by someone else containing no page info, this might be an issue to them. What do you think? I do know that apps like UnrealBook and Unrealbook mobile provide this paging information and if this feature is easy to implement I suggest STAGETRAXX follows suit. Many thanks for listening.

peter

DickyDutch Sorry, can't do that as the app does not know where the text could be added to the document without overwriting something important. But that is exactly one of the uses for the annotation editor. If you miss page numbers, just scribble them into the PDF. Pro tip: Zoom into the document to add really small annotations.

Personally I really don't care for page numbers but I need bar numbers in the sheets. So that in rehearsals I can say for example: let's repeat from bar 32. So all my sheets contain bar numbers at the beginning of each staff.

DickyDutch

peter Ok that’s fine as I said this is not a problem for me personally. I was thinking more of those users migrating from the ‘paper world’ used to performing with paper manuscript/lead sheets where the total number of sheets and the current sheet are easy to visualise . In my opinion this is not quite as easy using pdfs in STAGETRAXX - but I guess those users will soon adapt! Anyway I’m very happy with how the pdf feature has turned out - it suits me fine. Many thanks.

Damir

Just pointing out , when loading songs, FROM ITUNES MUSIC LIBRARY, isnt that no longer itunes?or is it still something that some users can use on the new ST3?i thought itunes has gone forever available for ST2 users only.

Create Lyrics Only File, perhaps PDF should be included to guide those first time users that want pdf only use and need to know where to go without reading instructions.

peter

Damir Just pointing out , when loading songs, FROM ITUNES MUSIC LIBRARY, isnt that no longer itunes?

Of course it is still possible although not recommended as it will degrade audio quality. This is explained in the manual.

Damir Create Lyrics Only File, perhaps PDF should be included to guide those first time users that want pdf only use and need to know where to go without reading instructions.

PDF is not a song type. You can attach PDF documents to any existing song type and you don't need to decide whether a song should have a PDF or not when creating the song.

Damir

peter sorry i thought itunes is no longer available that it has been renamed to MUSIC.

PDF might not be a song type but its a way a person can run his show and perhaps needs better guidance of how to get there.
Not all logic has to be exact to the letter of how it works, the point is to make it easy for pdf users to get to the spot they need so they can create pdf songs without reading the instruction manual.

peter

Damir sorry i thought itunes is no longer available that it has been renamed to MUSIC.

Still available on Windows and all users are still familiar with the name. Apple Music on the other hand is mostly used for the streaming service which does not work with Stage Traxx. Therefore I stick to the name iTunes for the time being.

Damir

SONG SEARCH, i found when i create a search criteria and end up with my search results i can only play one choice of my results and the search criteria is auto canceled, this is very frustrating, what is the point of the cancle button next to search if it auto cancels every time.
I expect my search results to remain while i play various choices then when i am happy with the song version i want i then press cancle to clear the search results and get back to full library.
At the moment you are assuming i will find my search in one go and want to play it immediately.This is very limiting and frustrating most times i just want to, find a group of results, listen to them, make a final choice, without having to enter a search criteria every time.

Perhaps a single tap on the song just plays it without opening the lyrics window so you can easily sample your search results, and a double tap on the song actually plays the song and lyrics window pops up and you continue the show.
This then allows us to easily browse the SONG library yet still gives us an easy way to grab one particular song immediately in to our performance.

peter

Damir Just make sure you don't open / close the full screen player when starting / stopping playback. Open the full screen player and search there or play the songs through the mini player and stay in the full screen song list. It will work as expected.

If you have auto open full screen player active, there is nothing I can do about this issue.

Damir

FILTER OR SEARCH SUGGESTION,
Hi Peter, light bulb moment, we have four types of songs, MULTITRACK, STEREO FILES, LYRICS ONLY, PDFs, i definitely use stero and lyrics only and might have some multitracks, pdfs i am waiting to see end results, some people might use all and others pdfs only with stereo etc, my point is it would be really handy to be able to somehow select a search or filter selection to only view only one group type, so if you are dealing with pdfs you only have them in view to deal with, if you are working with multitracks you only have those files in SONG view,
Most of us will have stero files no matter what, some for backing tracks some for background music, we might be wanting to work with our LYRICS ONLY songs, a simple selection perhaps in filter mode have these as permanent options.
Ive just come up with this so perhaps you can think of a better way, basically giving us an easy way to only see the files we are dealing with at that time, since there are a lot of different files present in the SONG folder.

peter

PDF is not a song type! I thought I already explained that at least 2 times.

But you can do all that what you describe with keywords. If in your view pdf is a song type you could even do that with keywords. Create these keywords and assign them to the song. Then use the existing filters.

Damir

peter i get your way of thinking but you dont understand my, it takes a lot of time to be entering an id tag to every song so you can then seperate them.
I am suggesting a simpler faster way of filtering so we dont have to enter data in to every file, this will not happen with 95% of users as it takes a lot of time, you already have tags on screen that identify Lyrics only, PDF Lyrics only, Multitrack cant that information that gets automatically placed on screen be used to auto filter to those file types.
I have not had great experiance with filter option, example i created filter Midi With Drums but as i was entering this info months on end updating the files so i have a filter capability i accidentally created some files like this Midi With drums i have just wasted all those months of entering this information because the filter will only work on one or the other so i will not see all my songs, there goes my months of effort due to 1 capital letter change, this system is very labour intensive for little reward.
I would be happier with a simpler filter to be able to see all the files i am interested in ,
I understand you are using pdfs and inserting them to the lyrics only file but the end user sees this as an alternative file type option and would expect to just see these pdf lyrics only files as a simple filter option, at least lyrics only and pdfs , multitrack, stereo, files.
Users dont need to know the nitty gritty stuff they just expect useful operation with simplicity.
SONG folder is over crowded if you use a bit of everything, specially multitrack files, perhaps a filter on multitracks simply gives you all the multitrack folder files only, the PDF filter selects PDF folder content only, lyrics only i dont know perhaps uses the Lyrics only tag to filter out this perhaps having a folder system for all file types would help to create a simple filter system.
I am just pointing out the existing system is very labour intensive and we all know most musicians are not the neatest tydiest and plan ahead types including me 🤗

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