Wondering if anyone uses ST3 to run their light show, how they do it, and what their rigs look like.

My band currently uses ST3 on an iPad to run our backing tracks/click. Right now, we just use "dumb" lights, but we want to start building a coordinated light show. Ideally, we'd like to continue using ST3 to run the show, and integrate the lights.

My idea to make this work:
Programming - Program the light show in Ableton via midi commands alongside our backing track files.

Recording - Record the show for each track to ST3 by setting up a usb midi interface with both midi in/out between the iPad and my PC. Have ST3 act as a remote control for Ableton to sync the show, and have ST3 record the incoming midi commands from Ableton.

Live Application - Plug the iPad into a docking station with power delivery, 3.5mm jack, and usb c ports. Use a USB midi interface to send midi signals to a simple DMX board like the Chauvette Obey 40. Voila, we'll have our show.

Do you think this will work? Any potential pitfalls? If the band gets off-click (it occasionally happens) is there a way to build-in a "kill switch" so the lights go into a basic holding pattern?

Sorry, if this is all relatively basic. Just trying to figure it out, and learn how to do this. I'd appreciate any input from more experienced users!

TLDR: If you run DMX through ST3, how do you do it?

    ryguyb1993 I do it by sending midi commands from ST to control scenes created on a ADJ DMX operator or I just use it to set a generic rainbow effect. Both are to sound to light/music mode so I dont ever have to worry about them being out of sync and I can stop and start them using my midi controller.

      I’ll have a video soon on how I run DMX lights midi commands from ST3 into another app on the same iPad (or external if needed).
      Very possible and quite easy to do if you got the right tools and know how.

        11 days later

        Sharonzaz very interested in this as using OnSong at the moment but if I could get dmx with stagetrax then I’d gladly switch back 😁😁

          Sharonzaz I’ll have a video soon on how I run DMX lights midi commands from ST3 into another app on the same iPad

          Definitely looking forward to this!

            So after a few hours of “workarounds” and thinking outside the box

            Lightrider on the iPad can be controlled via midi and STAGETRAXX3

            it’s not a straightforward setup,
            But if your already invested in this system,
            It works perfectly

              jaytrax
              The app is ok, almost double the money as Photon but mostly lots of issues with running in the background and very little to nonexistent help from their tech team.

              Ive already got me refund and a week later someone on their facebook page replied “how can I help?”

              The app is nice for quick scenes, but for the live feel and proper control I found it lacking and pretty toy-ish.

              Photon has a full on forum with help from users and creators/admins of the app.

                  I’ll wait for your video
                  As I say I’m just using what I have at my disposal for now

                  Most of my scenes are customised and overrides the app most of the time

                  With art net there is no drop outs but that’s an add on

                    11 days later

                    I use LightKey app and just send MIDI CC's to set it up.

                    The plan is to use Ableton Live to program sequences for each songs. LightKey and Ableton Live seems extra ordinary good in combination.. just need some time to get it done. Check this video! and this video!

                    10 days later

                    Sharonzaz

                    Just picked up a PKnight CR011R to test with photon

                    Could you please share your settings in terms of
                    What you changed on the art net device
                    And what you have changed in the settings
                    Such as multicast or Unicode,
                    Node ip, subnet and universe

                    A screenshot would be great

                        Sharonzaz
                        Same here, I loaded the demo show had no fixture assigned so didn’t respond 😂

                          6 months later

                          jaytrax @jaytrax
                          How do you find your PKNight unit? mine is the 2.4G unit (watch the vid) and i have been having some latency issues and thinking about getting what you got as i'd prefer to setup my own network (apple routers) that is more robust and works at 5G rather.