Stage Traxx beta version 3.0.0

peter

musicadi Yes, I have fixed the seek problem. The audio engine now has full support for different sample rates.

Regarding the queue handling. I understand. You want to skip a song but keep it on top of the queue. But the problem is that then it is no longer a queue. Only way to change the order in a queue is to actually move the entries in the queue. So what I could add is a gesture to move a song to the bottom of the queue if that would help.

Btw, the new version will support double tap in the queue to move a song to the top of the queue. Maybe a double tap of the next song in queue could move it to the bottom.

Regardings the other points:

I don't see a crash but the queue gets broken somehow. I will investigate this
Good idea
I thought about that. What is the most common use case, when you select a song? Do you want to play it immediately or do you want to add it to the end? I thought if I have my queue setup and am performing and I decide I need a new song next, I would like to just tap the song in the songlist and it would be armed to play next. The swipe gesture works the other way around (will always add to the end). If the consensus is that the other way around (tap to add to end, swipe to play immediately) would be more useful, I can change that.
That's already on my todo list: a way to view played songs

JDSMUSIC

I do NOT like playing fixed set lists. I read the crowd and adjust on the fly. With over 400 tracks we can play a lot of different styles. I am always thinking 2 or 3 songs ahead while current song is playing, so for me new songs should go in the queue on the bottom. Also, I have my playlists set up by genre. On ST2 would only let me toggle the playlists with my irig BlueBoard pedal. It would be very nice if I could use the 4 button pedal to...display all playlists , move up, move down, select a playlist from which I could finger swipe up or down to select a song to add to queue.

peter

JDSMUSIC I am always thinking 2 or 3 songs ahead while current song is playing, so for me new songs should go in the queue on the bottom.

Convinced, I will change the behavior in the next beta version (which will hopefully be finished today).

JDSMUSIC It would be very nice if I could use the 4 button pedal to...display all playlists , move up, move down, select a playlist from which I could finger swipe up or down to select a song to add to queue.

I will need to think about some solution here. I would like to have something that can be used with as few different buttons as possible. But I am currently a bit clueless. A button to cycle playlists is certainly possible. But movin up/down and selecting something would add another 3 buttons. So you would need to use 4 buttons just to select songs. So no buttons left to start/stop playback. I need to find a way to use fewer buttons.

danielrodgers85 On the song list I can create a placeholder song, would it be possible to add a special type of placeholder called Break?
This would stop continuos playback when reached in the queue

Playback does already stop on a placeholder song. Even with autoplay engaged.

danielrodgers85 ie show total time of all songs before it in playlist

Actually that's what playlists are for in my opinion. I guess what would work for you is to have an option to disable duplicate songs in a playlist, then create a big playlists with multiple sets and then copy this playlist multiple times and remove songs which are not part of the specific set. Right?

danielrodgers85 And a Next Break in X minutes shown in queue

The next beta version will have the session timer again with a new mode which displays the approximate end time of the current queue 🙂

danielrodgers85

Hey, so far I’m really liking ST3 and overall prefer the UI

Firstly in ST2 there was an option to prevent duplicates in a playlist, is this possible with ST3?

I prefer to create my set in advance and then tweak it, usually by reordering songs.
The new queue makes this really easy.

But I find creating the 2 playlists a bit of a pain, one reason is avoiding duplicates between 2 or more playlists (same song in set 1 and 2)

On the song list I can create a placeholder song, would it be possible to add a special type of placeholder called Break?
This would stop continuos playback when reached in the queue

So my workflow would be create a single playlist for whole evening with breaks in place
Eg

Song 1
Song 2
Break - Intros
Song 3
Etc
Break - End of Set 1
Song 20
Song 21
Etc
Break - End of Set 2
Extra song 1 that I may or may not play but can pull forward in queue
Extra song 2

If the breaks could show their time position in playlist / queue that would be even better
ie show total time of all songs before it in playlist
And a Next Break in X minutes shown in queue

danielrodgers85

peter Actually that's what playlists are for in my opinion. I guess what would work for you is to have an option to disable duplicate songs in a playlist, then create a big playlists with multiple sets and then copy this playlist multiple times and remove songs which are not part of the specific set. Right?

Yes, that would work.

I also noticed the playlist screen doesn’t show the total duration, you have to back out to the playlist screen to see that

JDSMUSIC

I always touch the iPad screen to start and stop. Maybe have All Footswitch options but limit assignment to 4 operations?

rumbakid

I’ve been using ST3 now at all my gigs and I really like it. Occasionally I get a bug where the play button disappears and won’t come back. I have to restart the app to get it to come back. I think it would be much better if the play button was always there instead of disappearing and reappearing.

peter

New beta build 2691

Another big update with lots of changes. Now I will start working on the visuals in the mini player and lyrics view.

Changes

Added session timer with 3 operating modes: clock, session timer, end time of current queue
Queue summary is displayed above the queue also in lyrics view mode
Refreshing the song list will now also refresh song metadata if the audio file has changed
Queue display in lyrics view can now slide in and out
Double tapping a song in the queue will move it to the top of the queue
Queue badge will always display total number of songs in queue
Added setting to change audio buffer size (not applicable when running in Audiobus session)
Tap on a song will now add it to the end of the queue
Song titles of songs with missing audio files are displayed in red color
Changed section header color in song view
Fixed crash when importing songs from iTunes library that are not downloaded to the device
Fixed inaccurate positioning of 48kHz tracks
Fixed tapping in song view edit mode does add songs to queue instead of selecting them
Fixed swiping lyrics in portrait view does not work after opening lyrics view
Fixed crash when deleting last song from queue in lyrics view
Fixed restoring backups does not check for iTunes access rights
Fixed importing lyrics with other encoding than utf-8 fails
Fixed crash when an audio file has been deleted and the song list is refreshed
Fixed crash when clearing queue after moving first song down the queue

Bugs in this version

~~queue badge not updated when adding multiple songs or restarting the app~~
~~songs which contain a / character in title or artist can not be imported from iTunes library~~

Next changes planned

improve visuals
network session functionality
find a way to select next song via pedal commands
add ability to view played songs
show tutorial on first start of app
add payment options

musicadi

Hi,

Cool, thank you!

Is it possible to put the queue list at the bottom in portrait mode, with full width and height that’s about 25-30% of the lyrics window? I think that would look visually better. The number of songs/playtime and song duration info don’t fit the current width.

A few bugs:
- tap to add song to bottom not working (you already use tap to add to queue in song mode, that might be conflicting?). Actually, swipe right already moves the song to top, double tap could be used to move it to bottom instead.
- in portrait mode, double tap to move song to top, then turn the device to landscape: there are graphical glitches in the queue list, which persist if you turn it back to portrait mode and go away once text is offscreen or you use any gesture
- in song mode, select songs and add them to the queue: queue badge is not updated for those songs
- force close the app and open it again: queue badge “forgets” the number of songs in queue
- in settings, when swiping the audio volume back and forth a few times, it goes crazy 🙂

Feature requests:
- could we have dark mode in Song Details window also? 🙂
- in Song Details, double tapping song volume resets it to 0. Might be useful to add this functionality to the other sliders too
- a way to control main volume from the player screen. Maybe an option for the +/- volume buttons to control either song volume, playlist volume or device volume
- color option for the lyrics that are not highlighted (could be grayscale only)

Thanks again and have a nice day!

peter

musicadi Is it possible to put the queue list at the bottom in portrait mode, with full width and height that’s about 25-30% of the lyrics window? I think that would look visually better. The number of songs/playtime and song duration info don’t fit the current width.

I tried that but it is not very usable only 3 songs can be displayed in that position. That is not enough especially as I got a couple of requests for version 2 to increase the song list height in portrait view. What I can do though is to display the total queue summary above the autoplay control in portrait view.

musicadi - tap to add song to bottom not working (you already use tap to add to queue in song mode, that might be conflicting?). Actually, swipe right already moves the song to top, double tap could be used to move it to bottom instead.

I forgot to add this one in the last beta.

musicadi - in portrait mode, double tap to move song to top, then turn the device to landscape: there are graphical glitches in the queue list, which persist if you turn it back to portrait mode and go away once text is offscreen or you use any gesture

Seems to work fine for me. What kind of glitches do you get?

musicadi - in song mode, select songs and add them to the queue: queue badge is not updated for those songs
- force close the app and open it again: queue badge “forgets” the number of songs in queue

Confirm, will be fixed.

musicadi - in settings, when swiping the audio volume back and forth a few times, it goes crazy

It doesn't go crazy but lags behind your movements. I can't change that as the device volume slider is an iOS component. Anyway, no one will quickly swipe the volume back and forth a couple of times in real world use.

musicadi - could we have dark mode in Song Details window also?

I had that in the beginning but did find it a bit tiering on the eyes when editing songs. The light background makes it easier to edit song details and lyrics.

musicadi - in Song Details, double tapping song volume resets it to 0. Might be useful to add this functionality to the other sliders too

Good idea but maybe something for version 3.1. 3.0 is long overdue.

musicadi - a way to control main volume from the player screen. Maybe an option for the +/- volume buttons to control either song volume, playlist volume or device volume

You have always the physical volume buttons available for main volume. Playlist volume is no longer available and I think that the fastest way to change overall volume is to grab the faders on your mixing console.

musicadi - color option for the lyrics that are not highlighted (could be grayscale only)

On my todo list for version 3.1.

DickyDutch

Hi Peter thank you for the new update - great stuff, keep up the good work.
Can you confirm that an ST3 backup contains the audio files as well as I notice that the file is now quite large compared with a ST2 backup - ’ve just created a one and it’s over 2gb. Regards Richard

peter

DickyDutch Yes, backups in ST3 contain also your songs. So moving from one device to another can be done by restoring just the backup file.

DickyDutch

Hi Peter ref the ‘Queue display in lyrics view can now slide in and out’ would it be possible to include this as a remote action so it could be switched via Bluetooth pedal please? regards Richard

peter

DickyDutch I can add a pedal command for this feature.

musicadi

Hi,

Songlist on bottom in portrait mode: You could use two colums for the songlist 🙂 then you can display 6 songs and both title and track time would also fit each column

About the graphical glitch: the track time was covering the title.. however, I can’t reproduce it now 🙂

About playlist volume: I play the piano while using the app, so using the physical volume buttons or the mixing console is way more difficult if I quickly want to adjust the main volume

I also just noticed something with the timer: while swiping the screen, the timer is not updating. It “freezes” until you stop swiping

Thank you!

Cheers,

peter

musicadi Songlist on bottom in portrait mode: You could use two colums for the songlist 🙂 then you can display 6 songs and both title and track time would also fit each column

This is way too complicated to implement. Scrolling in a two column list where one column flows over into the next is not doable in a reasonable amount of time. I will stick to the left hand side column.

musicadi About playlist volume: I play the piano while using the app, so using the physical volume buttons or the mixing console is way more difficult if I quickly want to adjust the main volume

I will think about something when working on the UI improvements.

musicadi I also just noticed something with the timer: while swiping the screen, the timer is not updating. It “freezes” until you stop swiping

I will take a look at this.

DickyDutch

Hi Peter - I agree with the post by musicadi regarding the ability to change the master volume from the screen. Although I use a small Bose mixer I sometimes use the built in mixer of a Bose s1 pro speaker which is sits on the floor (or speaker stand) and not in easy reach during a performance if I need to change the volume. Richard

peter

OK, so we have two separate volume settings: song volume and master volume. Would switching the volume slider between these two modes like in ST2 work? Remote control via pedal would always control the current selected mode. Or should both settings be available at the same time?

DickyDutch

The way I operate now is that I ensure that all my songs are at a similar/appropriate volume by editing/normalising them in wave editing software outside Stagetraxx. I then normally only want to control master volume when I’m performing. With ST2 I use the Playlist volume to do this because master volume is not available from the player screen. I normally check that all my playlists are 0.0db before I start and take a backup. I then restore this backup at the end of a show to ensure all my playlists are then reset to 0.0db negating changes that may have been made during the performance.
I realise that not all users use wave editing software, so with ST3 giving them the choice of being able to change either master or song volume from the player screen I think would be the way forward. Regards Richard.

Singerman

DickyDutch totally agree with you on this ...

peter

A small progress update:

I am still working on the UI improvements. As most of you preferred the old interface, I did a lot of experimenting to find a way to get the visuals as similar to the old version as possible while still retaining the new flexible layout options necessary to support different device types.

I guess I made a breakthrough this week. Here is a sneek peek at the current status.

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You can find most elements in similar places as before. It is not perfect yet, but I am tweaking and I think the dark mode might be finished by the end of the weekend. I hope to finish light mode by end of next week and be able to release a new update.

DickyDutch

peter Looking good Peter. Nice one!

rumbakid

peter Yes! Looks so much better. Question. Is there a way to have it so that when you select a new song it automatically goes to the top of the queue? The old version behaved like this. Sometimes I select a song to perform next, but then change my mind and select a new one. But I forget that the old song plays first. I press start and the wrong song starts playing. It would be great if there was a setting you can select so that the most current song selection goes automatically to the top of the queue.

Singerman

peter fantastic - I’ve been away from the forum for a while but now the excitement begins. Now I can’t wait until the new version goes live!

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