Song tab does not have its own Airturn logic. Everything is controlled by the Airturn library. Only difference in song tab is that there is a textfield (searchbox).
Airturn STOMP 6 Problem
peter I don’t understand then, why digit 3 works perfectly in both yet stomp 6 does not it’s the same company making the device , the only explanation is the digit 3 allows me to set my own default button operation and the stomp 6 has its own 6 pre programmed settings.
ST3 has the capability to use these settings which way it chooses by using the Assign Action function, this works in PLAYLIST as expected but not in SONG , you say because you have a search in SONG , what this means to me you have allowed one AirTurn function button to trigger the wrong function, I am asking for one thing in assign action but getting another action in SONG mode this is a bug in my eyes in the SONG area, the assigned action is not clearly obeyed it has been allowed to do something a user has not requested.
I understand your reason for it but I don’t agree with it, as it does not make logical sense whatever the reason.
Damir What happens if you use the Stomp 6 alone without the Digit 3 connected?
I simulated the keypresses of MODE 3 using a full BT Keyboard as per your config and I could not get the search box to trigger. (I noticed button 2 triggers port 3 and button 3 triggers port 2, but that's a different issue.) I would assume then that the STOMP 6 should work fine in MODE 3 normally with those key assignments. The only key on the keyboard that would trigger the search box is TAB, but that does not exist in any of the STOMP 6's modes. I can't think of any malfunction that might simulate the TAB key... 
I'm thinking that having multiple Airturn devices set up might confuse things.
Try from scratch--delete all your AirTurn devices, remove the assignments from the "Assign Actions" page as well, then setup the STOMP 6 first and test... Then add the DIGIT 3 and test.
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MasterAnt what a mess!
I tried everything and have found further bugs.
I think i discoved this when i first bought the STOMP 6 but its not fixed yet.
I found A very interesting thing when i deleted everything and started from scratch, no other devices involved.
When i got to this stage and remained in this window my STOMP 6 worked perfectly, as soon as i exited this window in to SONG mode it went spastic again due to this search window problem , there is definitely a bug in the SONG system, this should not be happening.
Port numbering is predefined by Airturn. Please get in touch with Airturn support if it bothers you.
I would recommend not to assign actions in the Airturn dialog and use the Assign Actions page in Stage Traxx.
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I would recommend not to assign actions in the Airturn dialog and use the Assign Actions page in Stage Traxx.
Thanks for that info, Peter. I was wondering why there are two places to do the same thing, and also wondering if that could be the cause of @Damir 's problem... (I'm sure you have that advice in the manual somewhere.)
When simulating this, I tried a few permutations to create a conflict between the two assignment pages but that still did not trigger the search box to appear. (I recall the AirTurn's assignments took precedence.)
When using MODE 3, the order is wrong between ports 2 & 3. I didn't try any other modes. I'd guess that only MODE 1 & 3 would be good options for ST3. Possibly also MODE 2.
Another troubleshooting suggestion: Do you have an iPhone or another iPad you can test the Stomp 6 on—preferably one where you have a clean configuration / not "tainted" by a potentially problematic backup?
It is weird that the DIGIT III works without issue on the same setup. What if you assign the same keypresses to the DIGIT III as per those listed in the manual for MODE 3 and test.
The only other thing that comes to mind is a possible corruption of keypresses by a faulty device. If somehow the TAB key is being sent in addition to the correct key on foot switch 1 - 5, then that could definitely cause the search box to pop up.
A wild 
idea: since the Stomp 6 is sending keypresses, do you think having a custom iOS keyboard installed could remap some of the arrow keys, etc. to trigger the search box?? Check what keyboards you have installed in iOS settings. Maybe some regional setting could also cause this??
MasterAnt A wild
Airturn devices send keypresses. But they act as a physical keyboard. So they circumvent whatever keyboard you have active in iOS. That's why sometimes you need to deactivate your Airturn device when you want to edit text.
peter as i said PLAYLIST is fine SONG mode is not , why is the STOMP 6 at fault it actually works as expected in all other areas except SONG mode, the question should be why is song mode missrepresenting the footpedal commands, my feeling is by adding this search feature it has upset the footpedal normal operation in that mode only.
MasterAnt in my case port 2 and port 4 are swapped i can fix that by programing the switches apropriately, but i have suspicion its the SONG mode that has things mixed up its there that i have an issue, PLAYLIST mode works perfectly so i dont see that its the foot pedal problem it must be the ST3 programing when in SONG mode.
Thank you for trying to solve this STOMP 6 misterry. I personally think setting up of remotes should not be done in the Software itself, it should be done in the ipad settings bluetooth device information area only, once you make a device bluetooth connection you should be able to just select the software you want it to control , once you have done that an option to then program that softwares button assignments, and thats the end of it, it should not have another area in the software itself that complicates things.
So you only go to one spot for all your remote devices setup and all your software that is capable of being controled appears as an option you set your needs there once and thats the end of it.
If the device has 6 ports you simply choose the software you need to control and place that softwares switching operation required and thats it if you need the same device to control another software, you choose the other software in the same area and program its blue tooth reguirements so you can have one pedal controlling all your software on the same ipad differently as soon as you enter different software the foot pedal behaves accordingly without the need of reconnecting and confusing different software settings prefrences hidden in different ways within all different software, its a blody mess at the moment, bluetooth designers need to wake up to themselves and create a much more user friendly system that simplifies the way remotes work i blame APPLE for allowing this shitty system.
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Hi Peter, good news if you want to call it that, i found the process that corrupts my STOMP 6 to work as expected in SONG mode, it is complicated but i will attempt to show you what happens and how i can get it back to work correctly in SONG mode.
As you are awarethat port 2 and port 4 are labeled incorrectly they need to be reversed so we can correctly assign these pedals .
OK the big find is that if you start with SONG mode and remain in song mode the pedal works fine as expected as soon as you select PLAYLIST then immediately select SONG mode again, now if you press the pedal ports 3,4,5 only you end up with a cursor in the search bar, port 1,2 and 6 operate as normal and will remain that way untill one of the other ports 3,4,5 is pressed, as soon as you have pressed one of those three ports you can then press port six which types in a letter B then if you press port five it clears the search bar cursor, you now have come back to your normal foot pedal operation this then will work all the time as expected untill you exit to PLAYLIST and reenter SONG mode this then does the same thing again as long as you dont press port 3,4,5 you will have normal behaviour of the pedal on ports 1,2,6 again as soon as you use ports 3,4,5 you end up with a cursor in search, to fix this you use port 6 then port 5 and you are back to normal foot pedal behaviour untill you exit to PLAYLIST, AND SO IT GOES ON AND ON.
i have just discovered this pattern but i believe this is not the case on iphone i will thoroughly test it on iphone to confirm.
OK i can confidently confirm this is not an issue on iphone, will check imac soon.
Just confirming that Imac is good as well, but there is a labeling fault just like in ipad
IN IMAC INCREASE VOLUME SHOULD BE MOVE SELECTION DOWN AND VICE VERSA.
ON IPAD DECREASE VOLUME SHOULD BE MOVE SELECTION DOWN AND VICE VERSA.
peter Thanks Peter, the lableing problem i can live with as its a once off setting adjustment and once you know the problem exists its just simple enough to place the wanted switching requirement.
My main issue is on IPAD only it is not a problem with iphone or imac, and thats the SONG mode corrupting my foot pedal operation, this definitely appears to be a bug in the ST3.
I can't reproduce it. My Airturn PED behaves like it should and without a means to see the problem on my side I have no chance to fix it. Especially as everything is working fine on MacOS and on the iPhone.
peter Thanks Peter, i am really confused, is your airturn a STOMP 6, if not than theres a good chance it will work as my DIGIT 3 works fine, so its making me think its the stomp 6 , specially if they got their ports ass about face its possible they stuffed something else up.
I can live with it as i use PLAYLIST on stage and do not normally go to SONG mode unless absolutely necessary, i normally have all my performance songs in a playlist and stay in the playlist for each gig.
Its just that this strange STOMP 6 behaviour in SONG makes it look like its the ST3, but its now looking like the IPAD and STOMP6 are not a good match and its the STOPMP 6 thats the culprit,
My best solution is buy a more up to date foot pedal, and that could be why they have new versions of the same product and thats because they couldnt get it perfect on the STOMP 6.
So buyers be aware dont buy a stomp 6 get the more up to date models.
Thanks again.
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I have an Airturn PED as I wrote above.
If you plan to buy an Airturn device, make sure it supports the AirDirect operating mode. In this mode the pedal does not send keyboard events but acts more like a MIDI pedal. Pedals with the AirDirect mode behave much better than those that only have keyboard mode. The current generation of Airturn products (BT200) all have AirDirect mode.
Stomp 6 is no longer available for purchase (at least in Germany).
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peter Thanks for the tip, i will definitely upgrade, ive never been happy with the design of STOMP 6 , i dont like using rechargeable batteries as they dont last as long as a normal battery and i dont want another power supply chord to clatter the floor, but the poor design of the STOMP 6 doasnt allow easy battery replacement , you have to use a screw driver to remove the panel to access the battery compartment, this really sucks , but at the time thats all that was available so i will consider a lot more factors with a new purchase.
I appreciate your technical advice.
10 days later
Mannys Music and StoreDJ are sister companies. If you go into the product on either site, you'll see it is not actually available. That's exactly who refunded me. It's all bait & switch now with online shopping, especially when the product is currently marked down at the same time that they can't supply it!