Auto Playlist???

Damir

jzavaletta Yes, completely agree! TY! Would love to see it implemented! Cheers

Now the only problem is what does Peter think about this, is it doable ? Is it a good idea?
Can the idea be improved in some better way?
What do you make of it Peter?

Just think swipe left on a playlist and select JUKEBOX, go to song mode and use this jukebox song as a break filler , simple and easy,
Nothing changes but the logic of the play button once you are on a JUKEBOX song, you could have it look like a jukebox so it stands out from the other songs, have we sold you the idea yet?
If you are playing a Jukebox song and you select to choose another playlist to be the jukebox the now playing jukebox has to complete or be stopped before the new jukebox playlist comes to action, jukebox songs can be inserted anywhere in a playlist, duplicated and deleted as needed, but treated just like another song.
Sold yet?
This to me and most probably a lot of others is worth a lot more than having more tracks or multiple outs.

peter

I'm not convinced yet. This will be a lot of work with lots of special cases when playing back these "playlist songs" just for the benefit of not having to switch to another playlist.

Damir

peter I'm not convinced yet. This will be a lot of work with lots of special cases when playing back these "playlist songs" just for the benefit of not having to switch to another playlist.

Perhaps keep it as a posabiliy, i do think there are a lot of little things that need polishing in ST3 that would be more beneficial to us on stage, i am really not liking the search logic that much which is quite important when on stage, even off stage it is not making me feel warm and fuzzy , using ipad or iphone, so perhaps we can start the fine polishing first before we move on to bigger ideas, overall ST3 is doing its job nicely the basic conceipt of what its aims to do is correct, but it could be improved in some areas where people are using it in a slightly different way, like Lyrics only people that use iphones .
I will ellaborate about it in the new year as i have a gig on tonight so HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEAR !

peter

I agree. But please wait with your suggestions until I start the big brainstorming thread for version 4 once 3.7 is released and stable.

Now, off to a new years eve gig... Happy new year!

NachoChez

jzavaletta

Not trying to over simplify this, but couldn't you create a recorded "Break 1" song consisting of three songs recorded in a single track and insert it into your playlist like any other song? I do this now to account for my breaks (10 minutes of music) when planning a gig. If you want different song on your second break, call it "Break 2" and have different songs recorded. If you get done early just fade out and move to the next song.

Damir

NachoChez Not trying to over simplify this, but couldn't you create a recorded "Break 1" song consisting of three songs recorded in a single track and insert it into your playlist like any other song? I do this now to account for my breaks (10 minutes of music) when planning a gig. If you want different song on your second break, call it "Break 2" and have different songs recorded. If you get done early just fade out and move to the next song.

NachoChez, where have you been? Brilliant suggestion and so obvious I feel like slapping my face for not thinking of it already, not only that but now we have looping you could create a single large loop and place a permanent loop on it and presto you have a perfect background loop that won’t stop till you come back on stage, LOVE IT TOTALLY, so Peter totally ignore my other suggestions regarding background music playback, and I will erase all my background music playlists and create playlist songs for my gigs from now on.
Thanks again Nacho we need more of your simple solutions.

jzavaletta

NachoChez I already do that. But I have to hardwire this break together or leave it as is. The jukebox playlist however could be shuffled and mixed up. Oh well …. Peace and honor in the new year.

Damir

jzavaletta yes I agree I think a simple choice to make any playlist appear as a song in any playlist has a lot of flexibility to the user , and allows you not to have to leave your playlist, SEARCH is another example, they are the little annoying things I can think of when performing , perhaps the JUKEBOX IDEA is the answer as it has no affect on the interface it just gives you a simple choice to choose which playlist you want to be at your covariance and simply allows you to get on with the show.
We shall see, once the dust settles perhaps more users will see the potential of the idea.

jzavaletta

I’m using this “lyrics only” Jukebox as a placeholder… but it could certainly be modified to point to a playlist.

SeamusC

I've just come across this interesting thread.

I think the idea of a track which is simply a pointer to another playlist which auto-plays is an interesting one.

For me, I'd be happy if auto-play could simply be enabled cross-playlist and between playlist and song list.
I use auto-play heavily, I even have a range of silent tracks (30s, 1m, etc) scheduled in the playlist for when I want to speak.

However, if I need to break out of playlist 1 to select a song on another playlist or on the main song library, auto-play ceases.

It'd be great if:
Given a song on playlist 1 is playing,
When I select a song on playlist 2.
Then, when playlist 1 song is finished, auto-play continues with the selected song on playlist 2.

I'd think that would solve the issue for me with, I presume, a lot less dev effort for Peter.
I'd also be delighted if someone said... Seamus.. .that's already available you idiot!

Thanks in advance :-)

Damir

SeamusC if you select a next song in another playlist just activate auto play button and it will play the next song no matter where it is.

SeamusC

Damir Thanks for the reply.

However, I just unsuccessfully tested that.

Conditions:

Auto-play only enabled at playlist level, not at individual song levels.
Advanced queue feature disabled.
Playlist 1 with Auto-Play enabled.
Playlist 2 with Auto-Play enabled.

Steps:

Play song on Playlist 1.
While it's playing, select song from Playlist 2.
Currently playing song (Playlist 1) finishes.
Next song (Playlist 2) is queued and ready to play.

Auto-play of Playlist 2 song does not start.

peter

Damir

SeamusC Your solution is simple, Don't use the Auto Play all in the playlist, while you are in stop mode swipe left on all your songs and choose auto play , do this to all your songs you want to auto play to the next song , this now will auto play to the next song no matter where it is, this is how i use auto play . The playlist auto play all selection if fine for a quick on off selection of that particular playlist but the other option is a more flexible option to work with as it works across all areas of ST3.
My only other suggestion to Peter is i wish that when you do auto play to a different playlist that this new playlist becomes visible in the song selection so we don't need to hunt for it, It just smoothly allows you to go with the flow .

peter

SeamusC I think you found a bug and I can reproduce it. When switching from one autoplaying playlist to another, playback stops even though the queue shows Autoplay on for all songs. I will try to fix that in the next update.

SeamusC

peter Perfect! Thank you.
For me, that's a better approach than forcing every song individually to auto-play. The decision to auto-play a particular track is often based on where it's sitting in any particular playlist (e.g.what song precedes it). So, it's not the case that any particular song will always auto-play.

Also, fixing this bug also addresses the main topic of this thread. I can play my last backing track before a break, and auto-play to another list which is 'background music' during the break.

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