One Thing I wish For In ST3 MORE TRACKS PLEASE? :)

Gsheffield

CFMD28
I’ve been considering using ST3 midi for BB,
but haven’t tried it. I found some midi commands for BB and will start trying to use them. Appreciate your comments and any updates 🎶

Damir

Bass88 Stereo tracks are seldom used by live performers ,

I totally disagree with this comment as the majority of backing track users are musicians first and computer geniuses second, stereo tracks are the most common backing tracks in my opinion , multi tracks are convenient but give nothing more to the audience a good stereo track can deliver , all it does is give more work to the user for little reward.
But thats only my opinion i only have 45 years of musical experience and am a sound engineer so don't take my opinion to seriously.
I am just pointing out that some people waste a lot of time to achieve the same outcome others achieve with very little effort..
Keep on rockn !
Damir

Riff

Damir Bass88 Stereo tracks are seldom used by live performers ,

I totally disagree with this comment as the majority of backing track users are musicians first and computer geniuses second, stereo tracks are the most common backing tracks in my opinion , multi tracks are convenient but give nothing more to the audience a good stereo track can deliver , all it does is give more work to the user for little reward.

Stereo tracks are a lot more work. Back and forth to the DAW while trial and error during rehearsal, trying to get the mix correct on the tracks. More mono tracks to input makes life easier. Having 6 stereo tracks is a bottle neck forcing me to redo all of my songs a certain way to fit this particular app.

Because Multitracker does this so well, I may toy with the idea that John O'Brien talked about in a recent video using ST3 to send a midi command to Multitracker to play the songs. It's a work-around that I wish I didn't have to do.

flysupes

Hi Peter, ST3 rocks, we use it to drive backing tracks, program changes for guitars and keys, and our light show. Amazing! We would love to have more tracks though, any update on this? With iPad and Mac processors getting more powerful, perhaps it can be done now (coming from one who knows nothing about programming, etc.)?

Perhaps you could write a Pro version of your software that has higher system requirements, but offers more tracks? I know I'd be willing to pay significantly more if that were the case. That said, ST3 is amazing and keep doing what you are doing. The music community appreciates you!

peter

Version 4 will have between 16 and 32 tracks. Not sure yet about the exact number as not all audio features are implemented yet and I have to watch how much the cpu will be taxed with all features present.

jaytrax

peter is that 16 stereo or 32 stereo tracks ?

MarkGuitar

peter Version 4 will have between 16 and 32 tracks.

That’s awesome Peter! BTW, I meant to comment regarding cross fades. I personally never use them and I do wonder who would and why? I recall you have mentioned it as a concern due to the effective doubling of the number of tracks playing when in use. Maybe have an option that offers more tracks but without cross fades?
I would be interested to know who uses them and why.
Looking forward to seeing V4!
Cheers
Mark

peter

Each track can be either stereo or mono. It is up to you.

Damir

MarkGuitar I personally never use them and I do wonder who would and why?

DJs most used function, solo performers like myself use it when a song isn't appropriate, i can quickly Xfade to another more appropriate song without sounding too bad lots of other reasons .
STOP/START XFADE LOOP are your bread and butter tools when using ST3.

Sharonzaz

MarkGuitar solo performer (mostly)
I use crossfade almost throughout my whole gig (I do 3-7 gigs a week) except when I wanna stop and chat with the ppl, take requests etc.

It keeps the set flowing and the dance floor full.
Did not even consider using this until one day I tried it and now I can’t do a gig without it.

peter

According to the support emails I get asking about crossfade details, there are lots of users using this feature.

jaytrax

peter
100% use crossfade on every track and every gig as a solo, 2 piece and 5 piece band

MarkGuitar

Hmmm, DJs. Didn't even realise DJs used a track playback tool like ST. Any DJ I have ever seen has got some kind of turntable thing (real of virtual) and they mix hands on with that. Never seen or heard a DJ letting an app do crossfades for them. Ah well, I need to get out more I guess 🙂
As for dropping out a song that isn't going down, well, to be honest we wouldn't do that. Whilst I 100% agree that what the audience want is the priority at all times, finishing a song early always feels to me like we have made a mistake and everyone knows it. So we play through to the end and learn the lesson.Just my humble opinion 🙂

Damir

MarkGuitar Hmmm, DJs. Didn't even realise DJs used a track playback tool like ST. Any DJ I have ever seen has got some kind of turntable thing (real of virtual) and they mix hands on with that. Never seen or heard a DJ letting an app do crossfades for them. Ah well, I need to get out more I guess 🙂
As for dropping out a song that isn't going down, well, to be honest we wouldn't do that. Whilst I 100% agree that what the audience want is the priority at all times, finishing a song early always feels to me like we have made a mistake and everyone knows it. So we play through to the end and learn the lesson.Just my humble opinion 🙂

Hi Mark I agree with your points, BUT let me remind you ST3 is a SIMPLE app that is designed to provide a huge variety of simple useful purposes, it can be used as a great music librarian or an on stage tool like I use it for or anything you can imagine, it’s designed for the masses and not for a specific purpose let’s say DJ work, a Xfade is great tool as an example where you are at a party where you have a blue tooth connection to a sound system and are providing the music and someone comes up to you and recommends a song you have and says get that shit song off and play so and so , ST3 can easily do it, just select the song they want and hit Xfade , you at least have a nice way to do that instead of crashing out or waiting till the end, this is just one simple example.
ST3 is designed to please a wide market not a narrow one, this makes it worth developing and it’s a good way of thinking.
Good on you Peter keep up the great work let’s hope ST4 has the same mindset.

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