One Thing I wish For In ST3 MORE TRACKS PLEASE? :)

CFMD28

Bass88 I am facing the same dilemma. Six tracks is used consumed fairly quickly. I am going to need to combine some tracks like cues and click. Not ideal but what else can you do. Although, we the ability to see highlighted lyrics and share the master chart via the network, the cues and even the click become less critical. If the band all has iPads follow the same chart lyric by lyric, everyone is literally on the same page (pun fully intended 🙂

CFMD28

peter Understood, Peter. You're doing the best you can and we all appreciate it.

CFMD28

Here's is another option for y'all to consider; I am currently experimenting with this right now. For years now, instead of using backing tracks, I used a SingularSound BeatBuddy foot-controlled drum machine. I did use a four-track iPad looper call Quantiloop for tracks for awhile and it worked great but I had to do a lot of tap-dancing to switch tracks, controlling the BeatBuddy, and guitar effects. It got to be too much. Anyway, the BeatBuddy makes live performance much spontaneous as you can through in fills and pause on the fly. I will be creating some backing tracks without drums and control the BeatBuddy using midi command via the lyrics charts. I can program in the fills and pauses without having to touch the BB. I think this is very doable. I will probably have to make the ST3 the midi clock and make the BB the slave so that that backing track and the BB sync up. Stay tuned . . .

Gsheffield

CFMD28
I’ve been considering using ST3 midi for BB,
but haven’t tried it. I found some midi commands for BB and will start trying to use them. Appreciate your comments and any updates 🎶

Riff

peter

Because each track requires a whole channel strip.

I'm confused about this. Are you saying that each track requires it's own output channel? They can't share? If my interface only has 4 channels, I can only use 4 tracks?

In the app, there's main output and 3 auxiliaries, all stereo, so that's 8 channels. Could there be 8 mono tracks?

Also, since I've watched Scott Uhl's videos, I've been trying to figure out how I will use the app. I'm super impressed with both the app and your helpfulness here in the forum.

peter

Riff I'm confused about this. Are you saying that each track requires it's own output channel? They can't share? If my interface only has 4 channels, I can only use 4 tracks?

No, I'm saying that each track has it's own equalizer and routing matrix which needs some processing. Each output bus also has a mixer to merge all tracks routed to that bus. So this is the reason why the track and output count is limited. You can route any number of tracks to any output. That's completely up to you 🙂

dmcknight

peter I like this idea! I am certainly willing to pay for an app that is more featured toward multitracks. The apps that are heavily marketed toward churches are Prime from LoopCommunity and Playback from Multitracks.com. The thing I don't like about them is they want you to use their content exclusively or pay a subscription to load your own files in. I and I'm sure others on this forum would be interested in discussing or helping with feature requests and testing.

Damir

Bass88 Stereo tracks are seldom used by live performers ,

I totally disagree with this comment as the majority of backing track users are musicians first and computer geniuses second, stereo tracks are the most common backing tracks in my opinion , multi tracks are convenient but give nothing more to the audience a good stereo track can deliver , all it does is give more work to the user for little reward.
But thats only my opinion i only have 45 years of musical experience and am a sound engineer so don't take my opinion to seriously.
I am just pointing out that some people waste a lot of time to achieve the same outcome others achieve with very little effort..
Keep on rockn !
Damir

Riff

Damir Bass88 Stereo tracks are seldom used by live performers ,

I totally disagree with this comment as the majority of backing track users are musicians first and computer geniuses second, stereo tracks are the most common backing tracks in my opinion , multi tracks are convenient but give nothing more to the audience a good stereo track can deliver , all it does is give more work to the user for little reward.

Stereo tracks are a lot more work. Back and forth to the DAW while trial and error during rehearsal, trying to get the mix correct on the tracks. More mono tracks to input makes life easier. Having 6 stereo tracks is a bottle neck forcing me to redo all of my songs a certain way to fit this particular app.

Because Multitracker does this so well, I may toy with the idea that John O'Brien talked about in a recent video using ST3 to send a midi command to Multitracker to play the songs. It's a work-around that I wish I didn't have to do.

flysupes

Hi Peter, ST3 rocks, we use it to drive backing tracks, program changes for guitars and keys, and our light show. Amazing! We would love to have more tracks though, any update on this? With iPad and Mac processors getting more powerful, perhaps it can be done now (coming from one who knows nothing about programming, etc.)?

Perhaps you could write a Pro version of your software that has higher system requirements, but offers more tracks? I know I'd be willing to pay significantly more if that were the case. That said, ST3 is amazing and keep doing what you are doing. The music community appreciates you!

peter

Version 4 will have between 16 and 32 tracks. Not sure yet about the exact number as not all audio features are implemented yet and I have to watch how much the cpu will be taxed with all features present.

jaytrax

peter is that 16 stereo or 32 stereo tracks ?

peter

Each track can be either stereo or mono. It is up to you.

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