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Hi Peter
Firstly may I say how pleased I am that you have decided to continue developing stage Traxx.
It’s an awesome program that accommodates every professional musicians needs and for that I thank you.
I would very much like to upgrade to stage traxx 3, if I may I ask a couple of questions.
Firstly, would 3 supersede the present version I have, or would it be possible to run both versions on the same iPad until I got used to the new features and interface.
As I’m sure many users have, I have spent countless hours integrating lyrics into the program, would stage traxx 3 automatically include the lyrics of the original playlists or would it be a case of starting again..?
As for the subscription idea, I would be more than happy to subscribe to the program, given the flawless features and user friendliness that ensures a more professional performance only achievable by using stage traxx
Sincerely

    Lodgie Version 3 will be a new app. You will be able to run both versions in parallel.

    Of course it will be possible to load backup files from version 2. You will not need to recreate your lyrics. I will add this feature once the beta is running stable.

    As always thanks so much for your prompt response, much appreciated.
    I wait in anticipation for version 3
    Best regards ..

    In trying to add songs I opened my Google Drive in Files, navigated to Folder "Backing Tracks" containing 297 songs. I did Select All and they showed selected, then tried both options Open and Done. Nothing happens. Seems for now you can only add songs one at a time?

      JDSMUSIC It seems like you missed the download indicator. It takes some time to download that number of tracks and the import into Stage Traxx can not start before all tracks have been downloaded. The indicator is displayed beside each file. This is a standard iOS dialogue so I can not modify this window.

        peter. Is that the icon/image next to the blue circle showing selected. After select all do I just wait? How do I know if it is downloading. Am I supposed to select Open or Done.

        NEVERMIND. I figured it out....had to swipe one of them on the list. They are importing now.

          JDSMUSIC NOPE.... ONLY got 28 tracks? Did the pull down to refresh, it ran and ran....but still only 28 songs.

            JDSMUSIC Today and tomorrow I am traveling. I will take a look at it on Wednesday.

            Hi Peter, I have just updated my ipad 4th generation to iPad Pro 10.5 256gb for one reason only and that’s Stage Traxx.
            Now it’s time to give you honest feedback on new version 3 As you know the original version I had a lot of imput in its design good and bad and it has made it a great tool.
            I will point out the obvious BAD things as this is the only way to improve V3 but I think it’s so far behind the old version it will be a lot of work to beat it.
            I don’t like the overall interface idea it is a big step backwards to the old version,
            Main logic should be, turn the iPad on, select the software and hit play, that’s what we want, now you have to load every song to a playlist first every time you want to play something else you have to load it again this does not work on stage it is crypling the user.
            If you have a playlist loaded you play a song it is deleted from playlist automatically after playback finishes this is bad as I repeat good songs later on as they might be requested now I have to load it again VERY BAD.
            The purple colour on played songs is a godsend in old version, it’s fantastic to examine afterwards so next time you play same venue with same audience you can easily see what you’ve played last time so you can vary the listening experience and so don’t sound repetitive.
            Very bad, when in lanescape with lyrics displayed you can’t load new song in actual fact you can’t do much at all.
            In portrait mode no song display how do you change next song, different views give you different usage VERY CONFUSING and limited functionality old version leaves it for dead on stage.
            Song. Playlist. Modes are not very practical
            Say your que list hasn’t the song you need next as a song is playing you currently can’t go to songs or playlist to choose a song to place in to que unless you get rid of the lyrics screen so basically you are stuffed no matter which way you look at it, and eaven if you do manage to load the song it goes to the end of the que so then you need to scroll down to the bottom of the que list then slide left to bring it to top of que then eventually hit play then bring up the lyrics screen, I feel this is absolutely unworkable on stage, the lyrics screen needs to be always visible and any loading should be able to be done and if a song is playing it places the newly loaded song in the next cue unless the song is not playing then the newly loaded song should immediately be loaded for replay.
            The best scenario for playing songs anywhere including playlist and song mode should be single hit on any song will play that song immediately and a double hit goes to song edit not the way it is now very confusing and frustrating you always end up in edit mode when hitting a song thinking you will play it
            The new software needs a more in depth vision from people that fully use it on stage, need lyrics and play an instrument.
            I can’t see myself using the new version on stage as it’s lacking the real basics.
            Reasons to stay with the old version.
            I can’t do without my foot control of selecting my next song while singing the now playing song This is a must have.
            Loading a new playlist and selecting a next song to play from it with all the new playlist settings repeat song selecting and volume and EQ settings, this is invaluable on stage only appreciated by professionals.
            Simple one interface that is always there reliable solid easy to see and never stops.
            Many others but I am out of time
            So I hope you find some help from my comments I hope to have more feedback once I play with V3 a bit more but it is so frustrating I keep loading the old version and playing with that instead.
            Thanks Damir

              Damir Thanks for the feedback. I’m between flights, so only a short Feedback. You have some good points like adding songs to play next or seeing your played songs. I will try to add these.

              Regarding your opening remarks. Just work with playlists like you did, then it is start the app load a playlist and off you go. I will do some videos how to best use the new workflows once the beta is stable and feature complete.

              Other things like changing layouts is on purpose because different users use the software in different ways. I had requests for larger lyrics views and no lyrics views. This is now all possible and I will not change that.

              The basic design will not change at this stage as it would mean another rewrite of the app. And keep in mind it needs to work on phone AND tablet.

                peter iPad ver 12.1.4. When edit lyriks, paste is ok, import from pdf okey, but mark all imported text and cut, crashes the app. It is great, to have the ability, to import pdf, great!

                  peter
                  I totally understand the complexity due to different devices and size screens, but I would expect to be able to have the iPad version in portrait mode to be the same power if not better in the new version at the moment I could not use this version on stage as it would be a major backward step due to the points I made you have some nice new things like tempo and songs are in Stage TRAX but this does not compensate for ease of on stage use features the old version has there is no way I can use this software if I can’t load another song or playlist while performing existing song, this is just one major issue, it sets me back to the Stone Age.
                  Simple thing you should follow use the old version logic and add the wonderful new features like tempo etc to it.
                  How do you change to a different song using you foot control while existing song is playing something absolutely necessary if using it more professionally?
                  All these little niceties make the old version much more attractive for serious users.
                  I have only started, there are a lot more examples but I would like to point this out to you so you realise to be careful who you listen to for ideas as some things might appear a good thing but they actually don’t work well on stage.
                  Yes phone users will have restrictions and limitations but iPad users will not want to go backwards either.
                  I will point out other issues with new version but I am limited for time now
                  Thanks Damir

                  Spelolle I could not reproduce this. I did import lyrics, then selected all and cut. No crash and the expected behavior. I did also not find any crashlog related to the lyrics editor for the current beta.

                  Does your lyrics maybe contain special characters?

                    Damir The new version it loads all songs with Artist tag Songs No Drums but won’t load the Songs with Drums, it seems like it is not using Artist name to distinguish the difference only Song name so it does not load both versions,

                    I have found a bug when importing songs with some empty tags. If either artist or album have not been set, none of the tags have been imported. Maybe this is related.

                    Apart from the above issue I could play 2 songs with same title and different artists without problems.

                    JDSMUSIC NOPE.... ONLY got 28 tracks? Did the pull down to refresh, it ran and ran....but still only 28 songs.

                    I have just imported 200 songs in one go without issues. This is how I do it:

                    1. Tap on + and select Files
                    2. Select the folder containing my songs, tap on Select
                    3. Now I use Select All and then Done

                    Now, you really need to wait until the dialog closes itself. Beside each file you see the download indicator on the right side. After all files have been downloaded, the dialog will close automatically.

                    JDSMUSIC had to swipe one of them on the list.

                    I don't know what you mean. You don't need to swipe in that dialog if you want to import a file.

                    Oops.. yeah the swipe Deleted the song...

                    I guess I don't know that the "download dialog" looks like.. Attaching screen shot of each step... Where is this dialog on photo 3?
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                      peter you are tight, I tried it several times and copy/paste, works well. Good work.

                      JDSMUSIC The dialog is the whole white window in all your 3 screenshots. But I made a mistake. Step 3 should not be finished with the Done button but with the Open button. Done will only exit the select mode. This is really not very well named by Apple but as I said, I can not change this window and the big advantage of this window is that you can use any file sharing provider that integrates with iOS without the need to update Stage Traxx.

                      OK. I closed ST3, repeated your steps but in step 3 I clicked Open. It immediatly closed that dialog and again showed me step 2. The files are on Google Drive in a Folder called Backing Tracks...

                      to recap..

                      From Songs view.... clicked the + to add songs
                      Selected Files
                      Selected Drive
                      Selected Music
                      Selected Backing Tracks <--- selecting Open returned here...?
                      Selected Select All
                      Clicked Open

                      It went back to The Dialog showing All the songs with Select at Top...