DickyDutch Yes, Damir already reported that and I have it already fixed but I will add some more changes over the weekend before publishing a new version on Sunday.
In the meantime you can work around this problem by first deleting the track (swipe left) and then loading a new file.
peter ok thanks
Damir hi Peter here is my opinion of the label ALLOW SEEK DURING PLAYBACK ,
I would have understod that better if it was
WAVEFORM SEEK DURING PLAYBACK ,
Reason
ALLOW tells me nothing about what this feature actually does it just tells me i can switch it on but i allready know this as there is a switch next to it so it sourt of tells me to suck eggs but it really doasnt explain to what im actually switching, by changing it to WAVEFORM it straight away prompts me to think of what im actually affecting so i possibly would not have needed to think the sofware had a glitch while it actually had a nifty switch that changed its way of operation, which i think is a great thing as a lot of people that use it off stage would love to manipulate the song position quickly while in play for many different reasons, but can make it very safe to operate while performing.
Well done.
My thoughts on ST3 from a fist time buyer perspective who has music iterests and needs and is considering this software.
What are the basic needs and concearns of musicians
BACKING TRACKS yes this program delivers perfectly but when you load it definitely does not impress as it does not display its power immediately as it should as it hasnt got any songs in it you have to blindly load stuff in and this is negative if you want to impress the buyer cosidering it, Peter has explained to me Apple wont allow him to load songs in as demos perhaps they might allow silence to be present in a file that can have text written to it explaining the product or a simple message of Thank you for considdering ST3 message just so the customer has something to bite in to immediately and try out before doing his own thing.
LYRICS and CHORDS in other words TEXT
This program hides this very important feature very well because of its lableing it is called PLACEHOLDER that means nothing in the outside world nobody i know talks about placeholders but they all talk about LYRICS and CHORDS.
So from a potential buyers point of view they open up ST3 and have no immediate knowledge this software is very capable of taking care of their LYRICS and CHORDS needs.
My suggestion is change the placeholder terminology to LYRICSFILE.
This is more specific and to the point, a placeholder means to me a place where i can hold video files, jpeg files etc all things i am not iterested in.
As a musician and i am only interested in musicians things like backing songs, lyrics and chords so the labeling of these features need to be clear and simple.
When using the + in Song mode you get a drop down menu and four options to a new commer it most likely means nothing and would be very cnfusing.
Why
What is the difference between Media Library and Files.
If you hit Media Library you get Itunes library and no other option so why not call this first option Itunes library.
If you hit Files you get a wide range of options of places to load a song from so why not just say
THIS DEVICE, so when you get this drop down folder you read its top instruction
ADD SONGS
then you read your options
FROM ITUNES
FROM DEVICE
CREATE A NEW MULTI TRACK SONG
CREATE A NEW LYRICS FILE
The first three options are backing tracks and the last is a tex file so it all has a smooth flow
now you have
Add songs media library this is bad.
Add songs from itunes library Much better
Add songs file This is bad
Add songs from device Much better
Add songs create placeholder ???
Add songs create new lyrics song Much better
Add Songs create multi track song Is good.
Damir You are right. Naming in this menu can be improved.
But I don't agree with "iTunes" and "Device". The first because Apple no longer uses that term. The official term is "Media & Apple Music" but you can't import from Apple Music due to copy protection. So I think "iTunes Music Library" is a good compromise. Although I'm not sure this will be accepted in the app review but I can try.
"Device" does not fit because you can also import from the cloud and not only from files on your device.
So what I will do is the following:
Media Library -> From iTunes Music Library
Files -> From Local & Cloud Files
Create Placeholder -> Create Lyrics Only Song
I am just uploading the new build I have been working on this week. Mostly fixes and small improvements suggested in this thread.
And now off to watching the European Soccer Championship Finals 
Thank you for the update that includes changes in response to our feedback - great job.
However one very minor comment is that in the pop up window used to create a ‘Lyrics Only’ song the word ‘placeholder’ still appears.
Icon should be grey as it is not available in lyrics song.
AUTO PLAY next to EQ button logic in playlist mode feedback.
I found this button very useful while performing but have also found it a nuicance when i use the same playlist at the next gig.
Why?
As you use it on occasional songs you want to auto play to next songs it leaves these songs marked in auto play, but i do not want to remember this as next time i might not want this setting but if i dont remember to deselect them the next time i use this set list i get surprised auto plays, which can turn out to be embarrasing.
Solution to this is very simple and logical.
If you are in a playlist and the song is not playing a selection of auto play on individual songs gets remembered as you are probably creating the way you want the playlist to perform.
Once a song is playing the Auto play song button becomes a once off reguest and it does not remember this setting just like in SONG mode.
I like the way you can just select all auto play in the actual song playlist and it does not interfere with your individual auto play settings so when you turn off all auto play it still remembers your individual songs
This is very flexible as some songs you allways want to auto play, this is good.
But i think the logic of the Auto play next to EQ should do one extra thing and that is if you are playing a song with auto play selected for that song you should be able to temporarily disable this auto play but for this time only.
So this simply means if you are in play mode in playlist the auto play button next to eq behaves as a one time only change of logic to whatever the auto play setting is in.
If you are in stop mode it is a permanent change to the songs auto play mode and is remembered.
Today after playing around with Auto play in History, songs and playlists i have discovered some interesting things and will share my views,
Generally speaking i love this feature and use it quite a bit but feel it could be improved.
SONG and HISTORY do not have auto play all and that is perfectly fine and if you use the Auto play button next to EQ it auto plays the next song once and it disables itself and is not remembered, this is also perfect.
But in playlist you have the Auto play in all in song list as well as this Auto play next to EQ which complicates things of operation, this is where i feel it shuld work this way.
The Auto play next to EQ logic should have to ways it operates depending on the play state.And it should allways be highlighted if the now selected song has autoplay selected and be greyed out if the song has no auto play and this should operate on the songs that have been selected by the Autoplay button in the playlist.This means that even though you might have selected all autoplay songs you can disable one song as you are performing, meaning not only can you select autoplay but you can also deselect autoplay for one individual song, but this is only temporary for that song if the song is playing, but permanent if the song is stationary.
So to simplify the explanation no matter what state of autoplay a song is in that you have chosen the autoplay button next to EQ is either highlighted meaning you can temporarily disable auto play or it is not highlighted meaning you can enable autoplay, it will not be a permanent selection for that song if you are playing it, but it will be a permanent selection if you are in stop mode.
This then introduces a new feature where you can deselect continue as well where now if autoplay all is enabled you cant do that and the highlight of this button does not work as well.
You also would not get all these autoplay songs all over the place that you did not mean to remember but you wanted only once.
Peter if you understand this you are a genius.
Hope this helps
Love the EQ button now its on stage user friendly and the EQ is powerful enough to be worth tweaking.
Small feature request because the EQ is so powerful and has so many options you can find youself in a pickle so to get out of it quickly A RESET EQ button would be very helpful , perhaps in the near future if possible.
My Suggestion position
HOSTING A SESION TO IPHONE.
Hi Peter i have noticed when i join session with my iphone 11 the Arow box that is used to resize lyrics window has the same issue that the master ST3 use to have but you fixed it.
I have found i can manually resize the text size on the iphone using the pinch method but the size is not remembered so the next song resizes the text again so i am needing to continually resize the lyrics as my ipad has more realestate i have larger font but it is not apropriate on the iphone, is there a fixed text size mode on the slave screen.
That brings me to ask why do i have the auto scroll buttons in the slave screen would it not be more logical to have TEXT size instead, so this setting is like a compensation offset setting to accomodate the smaller screen, once set it just follows the ipad sizeing. Once set it is remembered for ever more untill changed to suit different hosts.
Hi Peter I found if I enable host on my iPad then join host on my iPhone 11 and play a song , then I walk out of Bluetooth range so I lose my host , I can’t rejoin the host again, I tried closing both devices software and starting again that didn’t work so I shut down and restarted the devices then I could get a connection again but I purposely lost the connection again and tried to rejoin with no luck again, the slave sees my iPad as a host it just comes up with this message
I was pretty sure when slave lost connection and sent another join request it use to show a message on the iPad to accept it, this is not happening, I would rather that you hit join on the slave and it automatically joins again without the need of approval, but at the moment I don’t even get that.
Would it be possible to allow the MIDI command to be sent when the song loads as well as when play button is hit? This is needed to turn off delay/reverb on vocals to talk to audience or announce next song.
Still need the send on play to turn it back on.
Regarding Bluetooth connection with Host.
I definitely can’t Bluetooth connect from iPad to iPhone or vice versa,
I was fooled before as I had both devices on the same wifi I believe that’s what made the connection at all once I turned the wi fi off Bluetooth connection does not work either way the two devices recognise each other but beta version doesn’t hook up.
I have just tried it on ST3 and it also doesn’t work, has anyone tried this before or am I doing something wrong as it use to work on ST2?
Thanks a lot for your feedback so far.
DickyDutch However one very minor comment is that in the pop up window used to create a ‘Lyrics Only’ song the word ‘placeholder’ still appears.
Got it. Will be fixed in next update.
Damir Icon should be grey as it is not available in lyrics song.
Good find, will be fixed.
Damir Small feature request because the EQ is so powerful and has so many options you can find youself in a pickle so to get out of it quickly A RESET EQ button would be very helpful , perhaps in the near future if possible.
Good idea, will add it in the next update.
Damir Hi Peter i have noticed when i join session with my iphone 11 the Arow box that is used to resize lyrics window has the same issue that the master ST3 use to have but you fixed it.
Will take a look at it.
Damir I have found i can manually resize the text size on the iphone using the pinch method but the size is not remembered so the next song resizes the text again
All data in a network session is transient. The client never stores anything. If you want custom rendering you need to enable the local lyrics setting and tweak your local lyrics to your taste.
Regarding the speed button: Tweaking the scroll speed is needed way more often than tweaking the text size. Your example with the iphone is very unusual. Usually people use iPads on client and server and then the text sizes mostly match.
Damir I found if I enable host on my iPad then join host on my iPhone 11 and play a song , then I walk out of Bluetooth range so I lose my host
Bluetooth is only used to detect nearby devices and build a adhoc wifi network if the devices are not connected to wifi. The communication is only done via wifi. This is mostly Apple functionality. I can not change any implementation details in there. The only advice I can give is: use a stable wifi network.
JDSMUSIC Would it be possible to allow the MIDI command to be sent when the song loads as well as when play button is hit?
Already there. Use midi to send commands at load and midi@play to send commands when pressing play. See here: https://stagetraxx.com/user-guide/midi/#send-midi
Auto play pop up message.
Hi Peter I am finding it more annoying then helpful, the message that pops up that tells me what I already know as the icon is highlighted.
But covers up my lyrics that I’m using at the time it is mostly annoying on the iPhone as the lyrics realestate is small.
I would not even shift it I would get rid of it all together as it is there for a short period and it is just telling you something you already know but is interfering with the show and we all know the show must go on
Hi Peter More thoughts on two things
The three buttons song properties,EQ, Auto play, 2 of them enter a menu and one is just a switch I suggest leave the two coloured but choose a different colour, this way the auto play would also be more distinguished when it is in a grey or blue state,
Suggestion 2 Auto play in Song And history should also have a temporary grey arrow in the actual Song box just like Playlist or Queu to maintain consistency and reassurance you have that song in auto play,
And as I said before definitely get rid of the unnecessary annoyance of the pop up suck egg message that blocks your highlighted lyrics.
Hi Peter I found a very tough to explain problem it’s a visual display issue in a certain situation so be patient,
Create an already played song that’s highlighted purple but don’t make it the first song in the list as the issue is what happens above this song.
Now select the song above you should see that it does not highlight in blue and the next song is highlighted below the already played song which is correct.
If you double tap to play the song above the already played song it plays ok but still no blue highlight but if you go to SONG mode it is highlighted ok
I won’t show you photos unless my explanation is not good enough but I think you should be able to create the issue.
Now that i have played with it some more to simply put it, if you have a purple played song the song above does not highligt either the now playing blue or the next playing yellow, it just does not allow highlighting.
