Request. Double tap on Rotary Controls in mixer to reset

Sharonzaz

MarkGuitar pan in the mixer, pitch and speed respond and reset to dbl click

AnthonyB

Also working fine for me on 1832 on my iPad running 26.0.1
Tested on every rotary on the mixer and all reset on double-tap.

MarkGuitar

Hmmm. I know it always sounds like user-error in these situations but I truly cannot get the pan rotaries to reset with a Dbl tap. The speed and pitch ones do seem to work although it is quite a lag before they do move back to 0, but that’s no problem.
But the pan rotaries on the mixer definitely don’t reset. I have taken a short video clip of me trying to do the reset just to show it isn’t me doing something stoooopid! But the forum uploader says it is too large (it’s 27mb) even though it is just 12 seconds. Not sure how I can get it smaller to allow it to upload as I only have my iPad with me at present. (I am travelling for the next week)
BTW, I am still on iOS 18.6.2. I haven’t moved to 26 yet. Could that be the issue? I see from above post that @AnthonyB is on 26.
Cheers
Mark

peter

I have just checked with iOS18 and the current build 1832. Double tap an all knobs in the mixer (pitch, speed, pan) works without any lag and reliably on a rather old iPad.

Just send me the video via email.

MarkGuitar

peter
Email sent. Just tried again in 1848. Same issue.

AnthonyB

Is there any chance there are some other background apps, or plugins, somehow causing this?
Some sort of Accessiblity setting in iOS that has been turned on/off?

Given no-one else has reported or repro'd this problem (and if it was a bug in the app, others would have to have seen it), it very much sounds like an issue pertaining to this specific environment, and so the troubleshooting is to try and remove any 'non-standard/non-default' settings or components until we find what is causing the issue.

If you:

Remove any audio plugins in ST4
Reboot iPad
Ensure no other apps launch
Launch ST4
Open Mixer then test again.

peter

I saw the video and the only idea I have is that maybe the hit box for the gesture is too small on that screen. Currently you need to hit the knob within its circle. I could extend that a bit and include the label. Apart from that I really don't know what I could change.

peter

Increased the tapable area in build 1865. Please retest.

MarkGuitar

peter

Just did some more testing (still on 1848 at present) and think I have found the issue. Track count.
With upto 8 tracks it works fine. 9 it is a bit sluggish. 10 tracks and it responds occasionally. 11 or more tracks and it doesn’t respond.
As I mentioned before, the cpu % shoots up when I dbl tap, so I am hitting it right and it does respond/register in some way (something is happening to make the cpu utilization shoot up), but the control doesn’t reset.
Anything less than 8 tracks and it is perfect.
I am using a 3rd gen iPad Pro with 512gb, so quite a decent spec, but I guess there are others with better/faster devices that will handle more tracks and still be ok.
Even so, I hope this can be resolved as more multi-tracks was the number one thing I have been waiting for and right now the limit on my device is the same as it was in ST3, 8 tracks.

FURTHER UPDATE
Just did some testing on 1858 build. Issue still there and definitely track count related. Now confirm that 10 tracks it works fine, 11 tracks, dbl tap does not work

peter

OK, this is an important finding. It could mean that I need to use multiple pages of 8 channels in the mixer instead of a wide scroll view.

MarkGuitar

peter
Just let me know if you need any more info or checks from me.

MarkGuitar

Hey @peter
Not sure what changes you did in the mixer in build 1876 but the dbl tap is now working great in my song with 13 tracks that previously flat refused to respond to it.
I will setup a few more songs with even more tracks and keep testing.
Thank you!
Mark

peter

I improved the performance of the list views. They could make the whole app behave sluggish. Thanks for letting me know.

peter

Nevertheless, I will add following paging buttons to the mixer:

Tracks 1-16
Tracks 17-32 (if a song has that many tracks)
Buses (1-16)

That way the width of the mixer stays in reasonable limits and there are never more than 16 faders with active level monitoring displayed which will help performance a lot.