StageCue select and start stop

kensayers

Hi,

I would like to have song selection in stage traxx select the video in stage cue but not start it. Then use a global play to start the video.

peter

Why? What exactly would you gain from selecting a video in Stage Cue and not playing it? Stage Cue does not have something like a selected not playing video. Either a video is playing and selected or not playing and not selected.

kensayers

if a song was selected then a general play action could be assigned to a button separately.

the scenario is like this

select a song in stage traxx.
it selects patch for guitar modeler.
it selects video.

when ready to start song with traxx.
it sends generic play.

when ready to start but not running track
use a generic play button

for both scenarios we use stage traxx to select video and patch.

does that make sense?

peter

No, that does not make sense because Stage Cue does not have a general play function and no video preselection. To achieve what you want all you need is to send the command to play the video you want with midi@play or midi@00:00.00 instead of just midi.

kensayers

if i have to send a play for a specific songg i will need 55 buttons

peter

Yes. You can add up to 64 buttons to a single board configuration.

kensayers

i need 55 physicall buttons on my midi controller. 1 for each song. that is what i meant. if i used stage traxx to pick the song, then a single command to start it, then i only need one button on the physical device.

peter

kensayers i need 55 physicall buttons on my midi controller. 1 for each song. that is what i meant. if i used stage traxx to pick the song, then a single command to start it, then i only need one button on the physical device.

Why do you need 55 physical buttons on a midi controller if you want to trigger the videos with Stage Traxx? You just need to make sure that Stage Traxx sends 55 different midi commands at the start of playback (one for each video you want to play) to Stage Cue to trigger your video. Then you only need a single button on your midi controller to start playback in Stage Traxx.

For example song 1 will have midi@00:00.00: N1.127@1, song 2 midi@00:00.00: N2.127@1 and so on...

AnthonyB

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the scenarios, but wouldn't the following approach work?

select a song in stage traxx.
it selects patch for guitar modeler.
it selects video.

OK, so you can use [midi: ] commands to select guitar modeler patch as this will fire when the song is selected (Loaded). There is no concept in Stage Cue (from memory) to 'select' a video. What would 'selecting' a video look like as an action/outcome, as opposed to 'playing' a video? A video is either playing or not playing.

when ready to start song with traxx.
it sends generic play.

What do you mean by 'ready to start'? A song is either 'Loaded but not playing' or 'playing'. The software doesn't have a human intention of some in-between state of 'being ready to play'.
So, let's assume you mean when you start the song (which might have a count-in or some sort of preamble) then you either use [midi@play: ] to fire events when you hit Play, or [midi@01:34.10: ] to fire events at a specific time. From a Stage Cue perspective, this would be 'start video X' commands.

when ready to start but not running track
use a generic play button

If you are not running the track, then you only have the 'on load' option [midi: ] to fire MIDI events or (as you surmised) you have to do it from a different source (e.g. external MIDI trigger, manually from the Stage Cue app interface, etc.)

I think you'll need to share a more detailed actual scenario that you are trying to achieve so that the Community can suggest possible approaches, or Peter can better understand the use case.

For example, when you say "when ready to start but not running track", my first suggestion (with the limited understanding of your scenario) would be to create another 'song' in ST3 that just fires the required MIDI events. That might be the same guitar modeler patch settings as the next song you are going to play, but a different video.
My normal usage of ST3 is running a band on a Playlist, so in my context, I have 2 songs for each song:

Song-preamble - fires events for whatever I need running or loaded in the gap before we start the song. This might be while the singer is chatting to crowd, guitarist has to change tunings and needs 30 seconds, etc.
Song - fires events for the song.

kensayers

ok. i understand what you are suggesting. i have two stage traxx songs for each song. one with the “premble”. and one with the play.

i will just play the track and mute it when i am not using the stems. this way i dont have to have a third track just to show the right video

peter

I don't know what a "premble" is. And I don't know why you would need 2 songs for 1 song? Maybe explain in detail why it does not work for you to start video playback at the beginning of a song the way I wrote above?