.St3 file help

Damir

AnthonyB no, I’m saying saving a backup file is not good to have in ST3 folder as it’s dangerous practice , you can rename full backups to any name this is great but you can end up with multiple full backups which chew up your memory very quickly, I have 23gig full backups this can really suck up your memory if you have multiple versions.
Don’t save your full backups in the ST3 folder, that’s all I am trying to point out.

Excalibur

Cheers guys, Yes, my backups are in the st3 folder, so I will save these somewhere else.
Like someone said earlier, there’s a lot of hours of work put into these files, and I always like to be on the safe side.

Thanks for your advice. Dave

Excalibur

Sorry for asking basic questions.
I have now deleted the old backup files, and created a new one ,saved it in downloads st3 folder, is now 2.02 gb

I have always used Microsoft Windows so I am a new convert to apple ipad, and still learning.

The file states that it is waiting, and is syncing with icloud.
I am assuming this is also normal.

Excalibur

Doh! , The reason why stagetraxx showed 11.9gb storage was that, although I deleted the old backups / files etc , they were still in the recently deleted folder on the iPad, and were still added to the Stagetraxx by the iPad.
Now that these have been permanently deleted, the stagetraxx folder is 2.02gb, which is my back up size.
That’s why I was confused,and thought the full back up was not done correctly.
Once again, apologies for my simple questions.

thanks for your help guys

Damir

Excalibur we’ve all been caught by that trick. 🤣
At least once.

peter

Guys, a clarification: A full backup contains a database dump (with metadata and your lyrics), all pdf files attached to songs and all audio files attached to songs. Any other files in the ST3 folder (old backups, your latest holiday pictures, who knows what 😉) are not stored in a backup. I always store backups first in the ST3 folder and after I Airdrop it to my MacBook, I delete the files and empty the trash (very important to reclaim space).

Damir

peter I always store backups first in the ST3 folder and after I Airdrop it to my MacBook, I delete the files and empty the trash

That’s the problem, if you don’t realise this as a new user you could think you made a backup and you are safe but if you reinstall ST3 it erased all your ST3 folder including your full backup you need to reinstall ST3.
I think it would be safer to give us a default folder outside the ST3 folder to save full backup files that way they are immediately safe as you save them.
I would give us an option to create a new folder that we can name like ST3 Full Backups or if you don’t do that a default saving folder like DOWNLOAD folder which is easily accessible already used as default folder for airdrop , this way a new user simply creates a full backup which immediately appears in DOWNLOAD folder and is safe from the reinstall processor ST3.
I have thousands of files in my ST3 folder, it is awkward to find the full backup folder amongst all other files , it’s a lot simpler going to ON MY IPAD finding ST3 Full Backups folder and seeing the actual SAFE full backup file and easily copy or transfer to other devices or users. I would like this folder to become my default backup folder so I don’t need to go through the long process to get it out of ST3 folder.
This then creates a fast, reliable, simple process.

AnthonyB

I'm not an Apple person either, so I have to ask, where does Apple expect a user to store their files by default outside of the App folder structure?
Is it iCloud (which I do not use, and could not use without paying them more money as 5GB default is not enough for my ST3 backups)?
If I draw the parallel to the Windows world, apps will generally default to storing stuff in the user's "My Documents" folder on the local device, which in current veresions of Windows is usually being backed up to OneDrive. What is the equivalent on iOS?

Like Damir, on Windows and Android devices, I just create my own folders on these OS's to put stuff in a consistent, reliable, 'won't be deleted by app uninstall' location. I'll probably do same on my iPads.

peter

Apple has a strict sandboxing model for apps. Meaning iOS expects the app to store everything in the application folder. You as a user can of course create new Folders on your iPad in the Files directly under „On My iPad“ and then use these folders for example for your Stage Traxx backups. Those folders will not be deleted when you remove an app. But an app can not create folders outside of its application automatically.

Damir

peter Apple has a strict sandboxing model for apps. Meaning iOS expects the app to store everything in the application folder.

That’s dumb logic, but that’s fine, at least give us an instant choice to change the default option.
Why make us work to fix a problem they don’t see yet is very costly to us if the shit hits the fan.
I don’t mind changing the default once and work the way I feel safer.
Why should we suffer for reasons unknown.
Can apple explain their logic so we can accept it?
I suppose I am saying if Apple has no idea where to save very important backups , why not just let the users decide.
Perhaps they think they know all.
In which case we should not need updates 😂

peter

You already can decide where to store the backups. The only thing not possible is to let an app create a backup folder outside of the application folder by itself. But you as the user are free to do so and the backup location will default to the last used location anyway.

Damir

peter You already can decide where to store the backups. The only thing not possible is to let an app create a backup folder outside of the application folder by itself. But you as the user are free to do so and the backup location will default to the last used location anyway.

That’s Perfect and a big apology to you Peter I missed the BACK arrow in the step after the naming of backup.
And a big sorry to Apple 🍎 I do love you❤️most of the time 😂

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