ST3 worse of STB

peter

If you disable Advanced Queue mode, you don't need to worry about queuing. It is done automatically in the background for you.

The tab icons will be moved to the top in version 3.1. With this change the button layout (and size) is identical to version 2.

What do you mean with autoselect next song? This is working exactly like in version 2 with advanced queue mode off.

John

peter If you disable Advanced Queue mode, you don't need to worry about queuing. It is done automatically in the background for you.

Yes, i have disabled Advanced Queue mode, and i have not problem with this

peter The tab icons will be moved to the top in version 3.1. With this change the button layout (and size) is identical to version 2.

This is good news. But one more thought - volume buttons and slider do exactly the same thing. Why duplicate tasks and spend space on it? Just a slider wouldn't be enough?

peter What do you mean with autoselect next song? This is working exactly like in version 2 with advanced queue mode off

Yes, i know it's similar to the previous version, and I had the same wish for the previous version also. As I said, I play songs from the song list, but often I don't play songs in the order they are. While one song is performing, i scrolling list and think about what to do next. And in that situation it is annoying if the list automatically jumps to the next track when the current track ends

Edo

peter sorry Peter, how can I disable Advanced Queue mode? Where is the option? Thanks

peter

John This is good news. But one more thought - volume buttons and slider do exactly the same thing. Why duplicate tasks and spend space on it? Just a slider wouldn't be enough?

During the beta testing of version 3, there have been complaints that I have omitted these buttons. Personally I also don't understand why you need a slider and the buttons. But there have been a number of complaints that these buttons need to be there.

John Yes, i know it's similar to the previous version, and I had the same wish for the previous version also. As I said, I play songs from the song list, but often I don't play songs in the order they are. While one song is performing, i scrolling list and think about what to do next. And in that situation it is annoying if the list automatically jumps to the next track when the current track ends

But when you tap on a song while playback is running, that song will be preselected as the next song. So why not just scroll down until you find your next song and tap on it? The current song will keep playing until the end and once ended, the selected song will be armed.

John

peter So why not just scroll down until you find your next song and tap on it?

Because I play the guitar at the same time and singing, I often don't have enough time to preselecting next song. And after the current song is ended I have to start scrolling again. And the audience is watching and waiting. Not good.

John

peter there have been complaints that I have omitted these buttons

This is the "dark side" of democracy ... :-)

peter

John But if you have time to scroll during your performance, you surely have time to tap on a song. I fully understand if you have no time during a performance to do anything with the app, but then preselecting the next song will only change the scrolling position to the next song.

SoloGuy

John
I play guitar too and have no issues with ST3. To me, after having created Playlists, it’s absolutely no different than ST2. I just look at playlists as what used to be the Songlists in ST2. It’s really no different. It just has a different name but functions in exactly the same way.

John

peter But if you have time to scroll during your performance, you surely have time to tap on a song

I probably can't explain myself well enough, but every time I'm on stage, I think how good it would be, if the playlist would be totally independent

SoloGuy

John

John I think how good it would be, if the playlist would be totally independent

Really not sure what you mean by this. Totally independent from what? When I’m in my playlist, I can play any song or group of songs in any order I want.

JonathanS

John is this something you could use a Bluetooth pedal for?

John

SoloGuy Really not sure what you mean by this

I actually meant "song list" in this context. And my wish was that "auto select next song" would be optional

SoloGuy

John I actually meant "song list" in this context. And my wish was that "auto select next song" would be optional

Well, as I said in my previous post, the Playlist acts in the same way as the Songlist. Also, it makes no difference that the next song in the list is automatically chosen as the next song. You can tap and choose any other song and make that the next song. This is no different than it was in ST2’s Songlists. It’s just now called Playlist.

John

JonathanS

in my vision it could be in the settings menu

John

SoloGuy You can tap and choose any other song and make that the next song

Yes i understand that. But as I said before, I don't always have time to make a new song active. Or, I haven't decided yet what song to play next. Or I just want to see which songs on this list I haven't played yet. It is very frustrating when a list suddenly jumps to another position at the same time. Therefore, it would be very convenient if the song list view would be independent of the song that currently playing

Anyone who has used a similar app Back Trax will understand what I'm talking about. Unfortunately, this app is worse than the Stage Trax 3 in everything else

SoloGuy

John
So just add all the songs you use to a Playlist. That way they’ll all be there and you can choose whichever one you want to play. I mean you had to add the songs to the Songlists, why can’t you add them to the Playlists?

peter

So, I've been sleeping on this. There are two things I could add as settings:

Hide the volume buttons and thus increase the size of the play button. This is already done automatically on the iPhone, so I could add a setting to always hide these buttons on all devices.
Add a setting to prevent the scrolling of the songlist when a song did finish playing. It will not prevent the selection of the next song, but you will not loose your current scrolling position.

John Apart from these settings. What you describe is exactly how the "Advanced Queue Mode" works. Basically you manage the queue by hand. If you stay on the songlist, a song will only be added to the queue when you choose to and you will not be bothered with the list jumping up and down. And if you always keep only one song in the queue, there will be no song preselected once the current song stops playing.

John

peter If you stay on the songlist, a song will only be added to the queue when you choose to and you will not be bothered with the list jumping up and down

Thanks for the tip, it really works! True, as I understand, I have to make sure that there are always at least two songs on the queue list. Otherwise ST3 will jump back to another window after the current song is over and hide the lyrics. But that's not a problem. The main thing is that i can freely navigate through the songs list in this way, and not depending on the ending of the song currently playing.

peter I could add as settings:

Hide the volume buttons and thus increase the size of the play button. This is already done automatically on the iPhone, so I could add a setting to always hide these buttons on all devices.

It would really be a very useful addition! As clean as possible a front page with only the features I need, that would be good.

By the way, is there a possibility for donations here? The ST3 is a necessary tool for me and I am very interested in its continued development in the future

peter

John By the way, is there a possibility for donations here? The ST3 is a necessary tool for me and I am very interested in its continued development in the future

I do get this question from time to time. Donations is topic I first need to check against possible tax implications. And for this I did not have time in the last months. I hope that I can get some type of donation button running this year but ST3 development has precedence.

peter

Open the settings tab, and go to Queue.

Edo

peter found! Thanks! Now finally I can use ST3

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