Midi to synths

CrimsonMedici

Hi everyone - first post here.
Trying to control 2 synths - Roland system 8 and a Roland Jupiter 80

Really struggling to get the midi working
I am using 2 x USB to midi cables which are both recognised in ST3 showing port 1 & 2

I am using the syntax
[midi@play: cc0.85@1,cc32.0@1,PC5.0@1]

To select patch 5 on the system 8 as an example

According to the midi implement guide
MSB85 is correct
LSB 00 for basic system 8 preset sounds (not plug outs)

The synth is set to receive on ch1 and I see the data transmit to the synth but nothing happens.

At my wits end!

Any guidance would be appreciated

Thanks
Nick

ADAM_

remember that Roland PC changes start at 0, so for patch 5, you may need to say PC4@1

Your syntax:
[midi@play: cc0.85@1,cc32.0@1,PC5.0@1]

PC5.0@1: This sends a Program Change message on channel 1. The program number should be just a single integer, so the .0 is likely unnecessary and could be a syntax error depending on the system interpreting it. Assuming PC5@1 means you want to select the fifth patch in the current bank (bank 85), which if zero-indexed, would actually select the sixth patch (since MIDI counts from 0).

Boris

I have network of midi devices Roland GR55 synt pedal, Helix 6, ZoomB3, TC Helicon live extreme 3 and Qu16c Mixer, Korg pa4x synt, so I use IconnectivityMIDI4+ for master of midi network some devices are connected by midi 5 pin some with USB B all devices are on midi in Ipad is master and StageT3 all devices changes patchs on command in lyrics of StageT3 [midi@00:00.60: CC32.002@1, PC.015@1, CC69.000@1] all devices are on midi channel 1 just for testbut I have problem with mixer Allen heat Qu16c with hex midi chart I want to change scene on him

derums13

Boris Did you ever figure out how to control your gr55 guitar synth with midi mapping and stage traxx3? If so what was the systax to select the User bank or any bank and then the Program change for specific patch?

peter

The problem is most likely your PC command. You use the PC format that also sends bank select messages by adding the dot to the command. So in fact when you write cc0.85@1,cc32.0@1,PC5.0@1 Stage Traxx will send cc0.85@1,cc32.0@1 like you specified, but then it will send another bank select from the PC command: cc0.0@, cc32.0@1 ,PC5@1

So to only send a PC after the two manual bank select commands, write: cc0.85@1,cc32.0@1,PC5@1

See here for details: https://stagetraxx.com/user-guide/midi/#bank-select-and-program-changes

CrimsonMedici

Thanks Peter for the reply. I tried that and sadly it still doesn’t work. This is for a Roland system 8 synth …

peter

Try 84 or 86 for MSB. Who knows if numbering on Roland devices starts with 0 or 1.

CrimsonMedici

Thanks Peter so - on ableton the midi is set for bank 86 set 2 Pgm 5 - this works fine via a USB cable to the system 8
I have the following in st3
[midi@play: cc00.86@1,cc32.2@1,PC5@1]

If I set st3 to listen and select the sound it records the following ; [midi: PC5.0@1]

Neither works when I start the song. I can see the data transferring to the system 8.

The system 8 is set to RX midi channel 1. - I have checked all ports showing on the midi section in playback on st3

CrimsonMedici

That’s what’s being sent on midi.

CrimsonMedici

CrimsonMedici just to add - that’s sending 2 midi messages - 1. To the system 8 ch1 and Jupiter 80 synth on 16. Thr j80 once it receives the midi tells me that midi offline 🙁

Both work fine with Ableton

peter

Sorry, no idea. Looking at the midi monitor all seems to be ok on the ST3 side.

CrimsonMedici

Thanks Peter something is off so I’ll check the synths again

CrimsonMedici

Hi all - thought Id give an update. After replacing the cables (didnt change anything) i finally bit the bullet and factory reset both my synths. Boom everything works! So there you have it...

Thanks all

Nick