SONG MISSING AFTER DELETE

Damir

Hi Peter i noticed this ages ago but never mentioned it .
Now that i am cleaning my huge library i have come across a problem.
I have two songs pointing to the same file name , so i delete one but choose to keep the audio file so the other version still looks at the correct audio file, but if i do a pull down sync of my library the song i previously deleted now reappears and is again in my song list, now this is very frustrating because when i decide to get rid of this extra song i expect it to be gone forever a reset of the song library should not bring this unwanted song back, this has bothered me for a long time thats why i am a bit worried when deleting songs the logic does not work to what is written as you delete a song title , one option is to get rid of the audio file as well and this works, but when i choose to keep the audio file and only delete another version of the song , this version keeps coming back on sync to ST3 database.
I expect that song to be gone forever and not be remembered by the database , otherwise whats the point, how do you clean your Song database?

davedroug

Damir if you want to get rid of it completely .go into your folders on the ipad then click recently deleted files it should be there then delete it again from there.otherwise it wont delete from cloud and it just comes back when you sync again

Damir

davedroug if you want to get rid of it completely .go into your folders on the ipad then click recently deleted files it should be there then delete it again from there.otherwise it wont delete from cloud and it just comes back when you sync again

Sorry Dave i am not using icloud, this is purely an issue with the database, when you delete a duplicate song that points to the same song file you are leaving the audio alone you are just deleting the duplicate song in the database, the problem is that is not permanent, if you pull down the song window to update the database for a particular reason all the deleted songs come back in to the song list again so you have no means of permanently cleaning your song database,
The deleted doubles need to be permanently removed from the database so then when you sync the the database to songs everything matches perfectly to what you have decided to do.

Hope that makes sense.
Cheers Damir

davedroug

you still have to delete from there whether your using cloud or not to delete off your ipad
or you can rename the double. go onto the main edit song info screen on the song you dont want tap at the first letter in the song name about a third of the way down the page the keyboard will pop-up add the number 1- at the beginning of the song name then exit, that song will automaticity go to number one on your song list , then delete it ,go into files and folders select stagetraxx folder the double should then be there . delete it .go to recently deleted files delete it again. and its gone forever . make a new full backup . because your old backup will contain the double file and will come back if you load it have fun lol

peter

I don‘t see this issue in version 3.7.2. If I duplicate a song and then delete one of the two the app will never ask you if you want to delete the audio file as it knows that another song is using it. It will only ask if there is no other song pointing to that file and when you then choose to keep the file it is of course reloaded when you refresh the song list. So if you see the dialog you can be sure that there is no other song using that file.

Damir

peter I don‘t see this issue in version 3.7.2. If I duplicate a song and then delete one of the two the app will never ask you if you want to delete the audio file as it knows that another song is using it. It will only ask if there is no other song pointing to that file and when you then choose to keep the file it is of course reloaded when you refresh the song list. So if you see the dialog you can be sure that there is no other song using that file.

All i can say is what i am experiencing, and that is when you delete songs that are duplicates and then you refresh your database , these songs pop up again , i want them gone forever so i can refresh my database without all the old songs i have deleted.
Basically if you delete songs you then should never refresh your database as that will bring back all your deleted songs , this makes no sense , you cant seem to tidy up your song library , unless you never database sync again.
Which makes the database sync useless.
Songs that get deleted from song mode need to be removed from the database as well so you are in sync with what you are trying to do and that is clean up your song list, getting rid of duplicates that are similar , there needs to be a master area you can trust, and that should be SONG the database behind it should be exactly the same , no hidden undeleted files behind the sceenes.

peter

As I wrote before. I don‘t see that issue. Please send me detailed instructions how I can reproduce it. The steps I wrote above do not lead to this issue.

Damir

peter As I wrote before. I don‘t see that issue. Please send me detailed instructions how I can reproduce it. The steps I wrote above do not lead to this issue.

I think my library needs a good clean, I am finding out slowly why things are so confusing
So I won’t waste your time for now until I am happy all my songs are in order and no similar files are present using almost the exact name except some names use one capital letter and the other one doesn’t, so I have major issues with a number of things so perhaps iCloud was having a spit the dummy moment just like I am having one , once I get it all cleaned and logical I will try iCloud again, for now I have some gigs coming up so one step at a time.
Thanks Peter have a great day.