jaytrax you have got back to front the external DAC Is far higher quality than the internal DAC on the ipad .light years better plus i don't use poxy mp3 .i only use 48hrz 32bit floating files i've tried with and without Bluetooth, and i just can't tell any difference thats live or with my studio headphones if there is a difference i can't hear it . and have never had so much as a glitch using my setup and Bluetooth it just works perfect and sounds fantastic ,I've been playing since the late 60s and can honestly say now is the best sound I've ever had 🙂

    davedroug but it’s still Bluetooth
    And there is compression happening during the conversion from the receiver to the inputs of your mixer
    All I asked was there any measured comparisons as this is usually a compromise in audio detail
    Whether that’s lows, mids, highs or a combination of all.

    48k and 32bit is great if your making quality recordings from scratch but it all comes down to the source of recording also

    You could have 48k 32bit file, it doesn’t necessarily mean it was well recorded or played from a musical point of view

      jaytrax correct, if its not good what goes in its not good what comes out ,most of my backing tracks are done on a Genos through my daw using just live sample instruments. top quality . so they are pretty good. but still i suppose its what people get use to ,but a good DAC will still improve the sound no matter what backing tracks you use . and thats the point,

        davedroug
        So if I understand correctly you’re working off an arranger/entertainer style keyboard with styles and a combination of samples and synthesised sounds make up these parts ?

        That then is edited in a DAW where you have your project set up as 48k and you export 32bit ?

        The audio is then added to Stage Traxx and then is sent to your DAC on playback via Bluetooth?

        This then has outputs into a mixer of some sort I presume ?

        If your mixer is digital it would have a sample rate such as 48k

        Is that pretty much your flow ?

          jaytrax thats pretty much it ,but also use some live instruments vocal backing on some of the tracks plus a vocaliser run from midi on the backing tracks etc the mixer is a QSC touch mix 8 which is basically a full studio which is first class, best mixer I've ever had what it can't do is not worth bothering about and for me i love the sound i get now. and thats what counts

            davedroug
            Ok so firstly to my ear this just sounds like an SMF which is then using the internal synthesised sounds of the keyboard/arranger

            In all honesty it doesn’t sound authentic

            The bends on the guitar parts is obtained using the pitch bend wheel and unfortunately doesn’t sound authentic or natural like a guitarist would phrase it.

            There doesn’t appear to be any difference in the sound regardless of the velocity of the sequenced notes, making me wonder if there’s any multi samples or round robin approach used at all.

            I mean no disrespect with this reply,
            if your happy to use these sounds that’s all that matters.

            👍

              jaytrax what ever floats your boat man .but your wrong it started life as a style file and was added to live acoustic guitar live bass guitar. and some live lead . main lead midi its a cocktail done to suit me and nobody else . so lets hear one of yours then 🙂

                davedroug
                Like I said there was disrespect in my reply
                You asked me what I thought was real vs sampled

                I’m not looking to compete or have a who’s track is best

                It started out with sample rates, conversions and Bluetooth, I’ll respectfully leave it at that.

                  davedroug I had a QSC Touchmix 16 that looked promising for a few months. I liked it quite well. Then I had a couple of blue screen issues, before one day, 7-8 months after I got it, the output was severely reduced. And no one can fix it. I read that they tend to overheat. Now I'm over on a Soundcraft Signature 10 mixer. Analog, but great sounding mixer. I've had two Behringer Xenyx mixers too. One started smoking, the other lost all effects. Never another Behringer for me. Your QSC seems to work fine for you, enjoy it😊

                    royandreno the QSC can get hot it depends what you sit the unit on ,whether it reflects heat back into the unit .mine sits in an aluminium base i made it sits right in front of me on a stand this helps keep it cool so never had a problem with overheating ,don't forget its basically a computer and all computers get hot the more you drive it the hotter it gets there all fitted with thermal cutouts to shut the unit down to save any internal damage , but touch wood never had a problem mine overheating