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  • Stage Traxx beta version 3.0.0

Adrian,
Don't take this the wrong way, I do not wish to offend, but I completely dis-agree with you. The concept of a queue is a LIST, not two songs. This new ST is EXACTLY what I have been wishing for for a very long time. ST2 required far too much interaction with the interface to play songs "on the fly". You had to play what was on the list in the order they appeared or tap dance on a multi switch pedal to achieve what you can now do with a queue. We did our 2nd gig last night using this new ST3 and people said we were "smokin'"...bang, bang, band from song to song with hardly any dead air. As requests came it, they were added to the queue and on occasion double tapped to play next. While playing, I was "stacking the queue" based on reading the crowd and dance floor. BTW.... we are a 3 piece group, drums, keyboards, and horn section. I play rhythm guitar, alto sax, tenor sax, and a Yamaha EWI and sing. My girl sings lead and plays keyboards and is the front person for the band. The drummer plays with a CLICK track on our backing tracks consisting of Bass and Lead Guitar. We are a dance band and want to keep people dancing, not standing around in between numbers while we find the next song.

I am a retired computer programmer and as you point out this could be implemented but more code means the program is bigger, takes longer to load, requires more memory, and in some cases could actually slow down execution. IMHO, if you like the original version I suggest you just stay on that.

musicadi Hi Adrian, I also disagree with trying modify ST3 to make it behave like ST2. The queue system is better... and what?? I cant get my head round why you'd only want to have 2 songs in a queue?? That just makes things complicated. Instead of thinking about trying to make ST3 into ST2 why not spend the time working with ST3 and embrace the new way of doing things.. Its so much better when you get used to it. Just for a week.. imagine ST2 didnt exist! And you had to use ST3 ... you'd make it work! I did, and I wouldn't switch back to ST2 now.
But if you really cant get your head round it and you dont like it then just use ST2. Simple.

Fretwizard Hi Peter, just noticed that the UI not updated when toggling autoplay with footswitch in playlist view too. Thanks.

That's intentional. Because when you press the pedal, it will change the autoplay status of your queue. No matter in which view you are. The autoplay setting in the playlist view is only stored in the playlist and will be used once you load the playlist into the queue. So remote controlling this switch does not make sense.

JDSMUSIC Dont know if this build covers this but I was importing a rather large list and while it was running I went to reply to a text message. When I returned to ST3 it was frozen. Could not even Cancel. Had to restart ST and redo the import.

I guess this might be covered with the next update. I have received some screenshots about database issues and these fixes might also take care of your problem.

danielrodgers85 I have noticed that if you modify a songs properties to start at a certain position eg 4 seconds
And the option to restart song from beginning after pausing enabled
The song goes back to start, and not the 4 second mark

Good find. This is a bug and I will fix it in the next version.

danielrodgers85 When you remove a song from the library, it is also removed from all playlists

It would be handy if it could be replaced with a placeholder in the playlists

I don't think that would be a good idea. If you remove a song and it would be converted to a placeholder, you would still see the placeholder in the songlist. This doesn't seem like a good way to keep your library clean. And what happens when you reimport the song? You would have two songs with identical names with the only difference that one of them does not have a song duration displayed. I gues that could cause confusion.

JDSMUSIC if I double tap to move it to the top, shouldn't the queue list reposition to top? I had to scroll to see that it was set to play next?

This was fixed in one of the last updates. Are you sure you are running version 3554?

musicadi The problem with your suggestion is that the queue is not aware from where a song has been added. It does not know the song on position 1 was added from playlist A and song on position 2 from the song list. So to make the queue aware I would need to change the database structure again. I won't do that at this point for version 3.0.

But I will monitor user feedback for version 3.0 closely. If there is a significant amount of users that have problems using the queue, I guess I will come back to think about your suggestion. But I really struggle with seing the advantage of limiting the queue to 2 positions. I guess in that case it would in fact no longer make sense to have a tab for the queue in the UI? It would really change the behavior of the app and I'm not sure it is a good idea to make the app behave completely different on the switch of some settings.

Thanks Peter, I was not running 3554. I just updated and confirmed it works as expected.

Enhancement for version 3.1. Peter, we talked about this probably a year ago or more. Occasionally during a performance you may run across a track where something is not quite right....i..e.. lyrics wrong or need rearranging, a bad midi command being sent, something wrong with the track etc. I had asked if there would be a way to Flag the track for future investigationt. I was thinking that with ST3 in the queue list, if you swipe the song left you have option of Delete or AutoPlay, Could we add FLAG and a marker or something be set in history? I seem to never remember the next day which song it was...

Thanks
JD

Version 3.1 will most probably be about library management and that will include tagging. I will add to my todo list that tags should be editable from the queue.

danielrodgers85

I take your point that this might lead to confusion.

Maybe I am just doing this wrong, if I have a song in my library that I have added to playlists, and then want to swap out the backing track
How would I do this ?

I remove the old track from iTunes and then need to reimport the track over the existing song in the stagetraxx database. Is that possible to do without deleting the song and reimporting ?

The easiest way would be to replace the song file in the Stage Traxx 3 directory using the Files app. Then open the song for editing in Stage Traxx and press the refresh button top left.

Hi guys,

Just to be really clear, I am very happy with the app as it is now.

My sole intention with the suggestion was helping find a way to make everyone happy 🙂

Having an option to only have 2 songs in the queue (in addition to the current behavior) would give those people who can’t get over ST2 a very similar behavior in ST3.

If it’s not a feasible option, then that’s just the way it is 🙂 I will still buy and use ST3

Wishing everyone a nice evening/day!

Fretwizard Yes I noticed that too as I was setting up my FCB1010. I vote with you on this.

Hi Peter I wonder whether you could shed some light on a problem I’m getting with my Irig blue board connection. I’m currently testing ST3 on three of my devices - an IPAD Air 2 an iPhone 6S plus and a newer IPAD 6th Generation (bought for more memory). The blue board will connect readily to ST3 on the iPhone and IPAD Air 2 devices but refuses to connect to the new IPAD. It appears to connect but then drops out instantly. I’ve tried everything including restoring the IPAD back to a ‘new IPAD’ condition and reinstalling both Test Flight and ST3 but still no luck. Any clues.

    DickyDutch Which connection mode are you using? Did you try switching to another mode (holding one of the pedals pressed during startup). Are you running the latest firmware on the Blueboard? What does the status led signal when the connection drops?

    Hi Peter,
    I am using the same connection procedure for all my devices as following:-
    1) open Bluetooth MIDI Devices setup in ST3
    2) iRig shows offline
    3) switch on BlueBoard whilst holding down the B key - small blue Led flashes
    4) iRig now shows ‘Not Connected’
    5) Tap ‘Not Connected’ , LED stops flashing and remains lit. ST3 indicates Connecting then Connected then Not Connected all in a matter of seconds. LED resumes flashing. (occasionally a Bluetooth Pairing Request appears requiring the join to be tapped).

    The latter procedure works perfectly on iPhone and other IPAD!

    Whether my BlueBoard firmware is up to date is a good question. I downloaded the firmware updater app to my PC but it wouldn’t open. I’ve currently speaking to IK Multimedia about the issue.

    regards Richard

    OK, if you can use the "B" mode, then you are up to date. To troubleshoot you could install the Blueboard app and try to connect in mode "A" with that app. Or try connection with another app in mode "B". If it also does not work in other apps, then you would need to get in touch with IK multimedia.

      New beta build 3617

      CAUTION: This version contains database structure changes. Please create a backup in Stage Traxx before updating in case the update does not run smoothly.

      Changes

      • Replaced some icons with standard compliant icons from Apple
      • Changed tap behaviour in playlist overview. A tap on the playlist will always open the playlist details view. To load the playlist into the queue, tap on the play icon.
      • Fixed crash when adding timecode to end of lyrics containing diacritic characters.
      • Fixed database error in song list and add to playlist views if songs start with diacritic characters.
      • Fixed possible crash when loading metadata from audio files.
      • Fixed rewind stop mode to honour the start time setting

      Is everyone ok with how History is perpetual? I would like History to be session specific. In other words, when I open ST3 before I start a gig, I'd rather have History to be cleared out. That way when I add my playlist, I wouldn't have to answer the question about loading songs already played. Also, I'll know if during a gig, I had played any particular song when selected from the Songs list. Yes, I know I can go into History and clear it, but it's an extra step. Sometimes I can get lazy. Sorry.

        EddieH But how would Stage Traxx know that it is opened before a session? What if you switch to background during a session and iOS terminates the app? Do you really want the history to be cleared when you restart it?

        I think manually clearing the history before or after a session is more fail proof than any automatic approach.

        Like the new single tap to VIEW playlist. Easier than having to hit the ">".

        Thanks!
        JD

        I’m using iOS 13 (dev beta 3, same as public beta 1)

        ‘’both ST2 and ST3 have the same issue. Whe. Trying to edit playlists, clicking on the blue i button does nothing.

        Obviously I realise that this is a developmental build but I thought I’d give you a heads up anyways.

          peter I don’t understand your first question. As for your second question, if IOS restarts the app, it’s a don’t care for me since the queue will still be current.
          I guess I’m not understanding the purpose of the History list other than letting me know if a song has been played. It’s helpful but if it wasn’t included, I probably wouldn’t miss it.