Stage Traxx beta version 3.0.0

DickyDutch

Hi Peter I’ve just migrated to a new 128gb IPAD running ios 12.2.3 and restored it with an iOS backup of my old device using a pc and iTunes. However I found I had to manually install ST3 via Test Flight as for some reason it didn’t copy over from my old IPAD. Although I can see all my ST3 audio files via the Files App (and in iTunes file sharing) ST3 refuses to open on my new device and appears to keep crashing. ST3 is still running ok on my old device with the same audio files. I have created an ST3 backup on my old device and copied it to my new via itunes. But how can I restore to my new device?
Regards Richard

peter

DickyDutch However I found I had to manually install ST3 via Test Flight as for some reason it didn’t copy over from my old IPAD.

I believe beta apps are never part of a backup. They always have a limited lifetime so in most cases they would not run anyway after restoring a backup.

DickyDutch ST3 refuses to open on my new device and appears to keep crashing.

I don't see a crash report that could point to crash during startup. Best chance might be to delete the app and reinstall it. Then restore the backup file from your old device.

musicadi I just migrated my whole songlist to ST2 and I really love the "Session" functionality, will love that in ST3 also.

What is the session functionality?

musicadi One thing that might be useful: genre and year tags

Yes, better organisational facilities for the library are already on my todo list. But not for version 3.0.

Johnr Oddly, I had a number of failures with File Manager and particularly after copying some files and then going back and selecting more, it would lock up or sometimes even give a failed operation error. It took me a while. I have plenty of memory and storage on this iPad, and the latest OS. Could these issues be related to the TestFlight environment?

No, I don't think this is related to TestFlight. Most likely the problem is the Dropbox integration into the File Manager App. For me the app ist quite stable but I mostly use iCloud storage now that Dropbox has limited the number of devices for unpaid accounts.

Johnr I don't see the timestamp feature for controlling lyric scrolling. Is that coming?

It is already there. Why do you think it is missing?

musicadi

Hi,

I just migrated my whole songlist to ST2 and I really love the "Session" functionality, will love that in ST3 also.

One thing that might be useful: genre and year tags (as well as ordering by these tags). I often need to search a song of a given genre or from a given year. I hope this can be done without too much work.

Album tag might also be helpful, as I write the key of the song in this field 🙂 but I can also add the keys in the lyrics or under the artist tag, so this is not as important for me.

Thank you and have a great day!

Johnr

Peter - I did get my ST2 backup to work finally, overcoming the lowercase file names by manually copying the files to the ST folder using File Manager, then restoring the backup. Oddly, I had a number of failures with File Manager and particularly after copying some files and then going back and selecting more, it would lock up or sometimes even give a failed operation error. It took me a while. I have plenty of memory and storage on this iPad, and the latest OS. Could these issues be related to the TestFlight environment?

Johnr

I don't see the timestamp feature for controlling lyric scrolling. Is that coming?

Bazz02

Peter I think Musicado is referencing Network Sessions in V2

Cheers Barry

peter

Bazz02 Of course. I am already working on it and it will be part of the next beta version.

JDSMUSIC

Hi Peter, did you make a decision on how to allow adding songs to queue while lyrics are being displayed?

peter

Not yet, I'm currently working on network sessions.

peter

New beta build 3070

I have added network sessions back with this update. Functionality is similar to ST2 with the exception that you do not need to approve connections as a host because this was too distracting especially when clients dropped out and reconnected.

The next update will contain a way to view played songs and also a way to add songs to the queue in lyrics view. If everything works as expected, this will finally be the first release candidate 🙂

Changes

Added network sessions to share your screen with other band members
Added double tap action for most sliders to reset them to their default value
Added pedal commands to select next/prev song and add selected song to (top of) queue
Fixed MIDI commands might be dropped during UI animations
Fixed error when creating backup with songs where volume is set to -inf
Fixed restoring version 2 backup fails if dropbox songs have been converted to lower case during file import

Bugs in this version

Next changes planned

~~add ability to view played songs~~
~~add payment options~~
make songs and playlists accessible from player screen

musicadi

peter Sorry, I mean network session 🙂 I see you added it in the latesr beta though!

About marking played songs: could you also add “last played” info (date, time) to that and maybe number of times played? I often play every night for the same guests, so knowing when I last played a song is very helpful.

Organising by artist, genre aso. is definitely a cool idea, so I will be looking forward to that in version 3.1 (or 3.0.1) 🙂

JDSMUSIC

peter Question on networking sessions. Can a three person group run network session on a local, no internet connection router, and have two iPads and a large iPhone 6?

peter

musicadi About marking played songs: could you also add “last played” info (date, time) to that and maybe number of times played

Yes, it will be a history. So you will see all songs played in the order you played them and grouped by day. You will also see the time at which a song has been added to the history which is the time the song stopped playing. It will also be possible to store the history as a playlist.

peter

JDSMUSIC Yes of course. The limit is 8 devices. But make sure you have a stable network. I would recommend running on 5Ghz.

Johnr

Peter, could you please add a button on the main screen to pop up the sliders for pitch and tempo during playback? Navigating to the the menus for this during a performance is not practical.

peter

Johnr Peter, could you please add a button on the main screen to pop up the sliders for pitch and tempo during playback? Navigating to the the menus for this during a performance is not practical.

I added this to my todo list for version 3.1.

JDSMUSIC

Just tested the networking with an iPhone 6Plus. Since hosted ipad had "show lyrics on play" set then the phone showed lyrics but on phone could not see queue. I guess thats a realestate issue?

Also, I shut down ST3 on the ipad while the iphone was still connected. The screen on the iphone went black and had to reset phone (home and power buttons)

peter

JDSMUSIC The queue is not transfered, only the current song. Maybe I will add back the option to view the title of the next song in the queue, but not the whole queue.

I can't reproduce your problem. When the host is closed, the clients show a message after a couple of seconds that the connection has been lost.

JDSMUSIC

peter thanks. Next song would be great. Our drummer doubles as our sound man( he is pretty good at playing one handed). He definitely needs to see the next song.

musicadi

peter Hi, yes, the connection is closed if ST3 goes in the background on the host iPad.

The problem with this for me, is that I have to reconnect every time after we take a break, since I play break music from the "Music" app, so I need to put ST3 in the background. In ST2 the connection was not interrupted, so when we came back from the break, nobody needed to touch anything, I just hat to bring ST2 to the foreground again and all was working.

peter

musicadi That's a side effect of the battery saving feature of Stage Traxx. When no audio is playing and you switch to the background, iOS might terminate the app (depending on how many other apps you have running). Once terminated, clients will loose the connection. The only way to prevent this is to keep audio running (even though nothing is playing). ST2 does this. But this leads to serious battery drain if you forget to force quit the app as ST3 would have no way of knowing whether it needs to keep the audio engine running or not.

So I guess having to reconnect after the break is the lesser of the two evils in this case. Especially as you don't have to acknowledge the conntection request as a host.

Another way around this for you would be to use iOS multitasking to open the music app in parallel to ST3. Or keep ST3 floating above the music app. To do this, slide the app out of the dock to the left or right side of your sceen.

EddieH

musicadi
In Stage Traxx v2, I create set of break music. That way I don't have to open another app.

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