Play history, and already played songs

Damir

I would like to see these two features as a totaly seperate operation.
Having already played song feature is fantastic, having a play history is fantastic, but having the two interact does not practically work for us.
When i finish a gig i want to keep my play history, but i also want to get rid of my already played songs as i have another gig and i need the already played songs cleared.
I DONT WANT MY PLAYLISTS CONTAMINATED WITH A SHIT LOAD OF HISTORY, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO SAVE MY HISTORY AS IT CREATES A HUGE PLAYLIST LIST WHICH THEN BECOMES A NIGHTMARE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH.
At the moment these two functions beeing tied together screw you which ever way you go, if i start my new gig i have to clear the history which is something i dont want to do as i really want my history yet if i save it, it creates a brothal playlist that becomes overpopulated, this is a major dissapointment, i am not getting the logic here.
Why cant we just have a clear all done songs which clears the database but leaves the history alone, for future use which then can be either printed, exported as another playlist , saved to a folder, deleted etc , but it does not keep contaminating the playlist area.
This makes a lot more user sense i could never understand this logic that exists now.
I find it fearly useless it just gives me more work if i save having to to keep tidying up my playlist area.
I use playlists heavily one playlist per gig but i do jump between playlists as i have my backing music on other playlists, i need my plalist area to be neat and tidy and kept to a minimum so i dont have searching issues when jumping from playlist to playlist.
Having history interfeering with my playlists is really frustrating and thats why i dont use history as it gives me more work later if i use it.
If it just remained in the history list and alowed me to use this list from that list to then print save to other folders perhaps create a playlist if needed, this would be very usable.
A database reset button to just clear played songs and yet retaining history would be perfect and simple.

peter

The idea is that you save the history as a playlist if you want to keep it.

Damir

peter and thats the problem this contaminates your playlist , it sounds good but its an actual disaster in real life, i dont understand why you have a history page that actually does nothing bu gives an option to save or clear, this is such a waste of valuable screen,
The history section is the most underutilized page on ST3,
When you enter history page it should be the spot you do everything from, an option to create a new playlist from history, an option to print , to save to other files on device, perhaps email just like playlists, clear all history, yet leaving all played songs markers in tact as that should be a totally independant choice to clear or enable and disable, as it has nothing to do with history, this history page than starts to be the heart of dealing with anything history related and has deserved a major spot in the interface like SONG, PLAYLIST, QUEUE,
at the moment it does nothing very useful it clutters up your playlists it clears your history page to disable your already played songs which has no relationship with the history usage yet it interfears with it, IT JUST DOASNT MAKE SENSE, .
I expect to choose history page and be able to do important things in this page, at the moment i have two choices which i dont want to do neither of those options for reasons mentioned earlier.
Make HISTORY page do something useful, like SONG but different , SONG deals with all our songs we have, HISTORY should do the same but its only dealing with your playing history, it makes more sense, then this page becomes worthy of being on the primary interface.
There is no reason to automatically contaminate playlists , this is not the area history belongs, history belongs in history page and thats it.
What we then choose to do with it should be up to us, but it should be within this page as this is the master page for HISTORY.
DONT CONTAMINATE PLAYLISTS so i can start using history for useful purposes, as i said to you in the early stages of development i didnt like the way history was then and my opinion still remains unchanged.
Perhaps i am looking at it from one angle, i would apreciate anyone to guide me to see it from another angle perhaps i am missing something.

MasterAnt

JonathanS Unless some sort of weird malfunction and the history didn't show all the songs, I think you might have accidentally exported from only the most recent date where you needed to select the date before midnight. Also, don't clear your history until you've checked the export, and export to text file as well as playlist. It's very quick to check a text file.

peter Instead of opening email when sharing a playlist as plain text, could you possibly extend that so that there's the familiar option of sharing to another app such as notes, or clipboard, etc?

I have two problems with sharing directly to email. The first is that on my home iPad & iPhone, I don't use iOS Mail, but sharing seems to always send using iOS Mail. The second is that on my gig iPad, I don't have any email accounts set up. I suppose I could setup my email account just for ST3, but that's not ideal. When it comes to exporting history, I end up having to save as playlist file to OneDrive, open it on ST3 on my phone (assuming I have a duplicate of the songs), then export as plain text which opens the wrong email client. After that I copy the text and paste it into a new email in the correct program. While an email is okay, as a PC user I personally prefer (.txt) files.

This isn't a really big deal. All that takes just a minute or two. Just wondering if there are other options than exporting plain text only to iOS Mail client.

Damir

peter

peter already one user got caught by the system where they didn’t know what happened to all the saved songs, that’s because the system is flawed, I don’t have issues with it because I don’t use it.
I treat history as a long winded method of clearing my played songs, its not well labeled to do this either and it involves me going to another page, ST2 had a much easier clear played songs method.
I am just pointing things out that could be greatly improved and that’s HISTORY page should give us everything HISTORY related and all better utilised visually, it should show the dates of performance in a column just like playlist songs, and depending on what date you choose it should open another side column displaying your played songs,
In this same window all options should be available to do whatever you need with history.
This is CLEAN, LOGICAL, FLEXIBLE, CONSISTENT, USER FRIENDLY, TIME SAVING.
I can work with it the way it is but as I said so far I have used it as a way of awkwardly clearing my played songs.

peter

Use keywords for stored history playlists and filter them out if you have too many. Or export them as playlist files. Then you can delete them.

Damir

@"peter"#p7045Thanks Peter yes its a work around but i will make do without history to save time, i normally have a paper copy of my gigs which i use to tick off songs i use through the evening, this then stays with me in a folder for future reference, i can then pull out 3 similar gigs in front of me and come up with a new setlist than i just easily create a new playlist in ST3.
Those A4 sheets stay with me for years and if i do a same gig once a year i can look back easily , i was hoping History would do that for me but its just too complicated to achieve.
Thanks