Network sessions on iPhone.

Donnamf923

CAnnot host a network session nor join a host session on iPhone, even though iPad snd iPhone are on same network, the available hosts do not show up for neither iPhone nor iPad. However I can both host and join a network on two iPads. Is this feature available for an iPhone? I have 3.2.7 installed on all devices: 2 iPads and an iphone

peter

Yes, it is available both on iPad and iPhone and also works idependent of the device type. Make sure that the iPhone is in the same Wifi network as the iPads. Maybe disable cell networking.

Donnamf923

They are both on same network, I’ve disabled cellular data. No luck. Neither the iPhone nor iPad appear in available hosts when I activate host or joint session. I’ve tried shutting down both iPad and iPhone as well. Any other ideas?

peter

I'm sorry, I just tried it with iPad and iPhone and they see each other immediately. My devices do have the same iOS version. Maybe if you have different iOS versions you could try to update. But apart from that, I have no idea why they don't see each other.

Donnamf923

I had to delete the app from my iPhone and reinstall it. That fixed the problem. Still don’t know why this happened but at least I have a work around if it happens again.

peter

Really strange. But I'm glad you got it sorted.

NCTRM66

I have a situation somewhat like the one you were talking about. If one of you could give me some advice before I commit to a course of action.

Can an iPhone join a session that was generated by an iPad?
If it can join, what is on the screen of the iPhone?
My partner uses the lyric component of the program on his iPad but I don't need for it to appear on my iPhone, I just need the timer/countdown, song list, etc. without the lyric. Is this possible?

peter

Yes, any device can join a session of another device no matter if it is iPad, iPhone, iPod or even a Mac.

I don't understand the question about the screen.

You can make the lyrics disappear by increasing the width of the songlist. Then I guess you will get the view that you want. A long press on the show / hide button will allow you to change the width. But keep in mind that the song list is only displayed in landscape mode on an iPhone.

NCTRM66

I just sent the following text to the tech support email but here it is for you...

The guy in our band who runs the StageTraxx3 program is using an iPad to do it and is also using the Lyric component of the StageTraxx3 program.

I have an iPhone with the StageTraxx3 program and would like to be able to join the session that he starts on his iPad.

Actually, I want it just like the picture on your website’s homepage! He would see the lyrics and all the other stuff and I would see just what’s on that iPhone in the picture.

Is this possible and if so, how do I do it. I imagine that this request or scenario has come up before, but i couldn’t find anything definitive.

(I realize that the two images on the homepage are not joined in a session like I would like to see it. While both screens have Me & Mrs Jones as “first” song, their second songs are different. If the song lists had been the same on both phones, that would have indicated connectivity between them, which would have given me hope!)

I haven’t tried this for myself to see what would happen because I have not sprung for the full version of the program as yet.

If you assure me that I can get the program to work as I have requested, springing for the unlocked version of the program is no problem.

Thank you,
Tony at Cedar Farm

peter

OK, so joining a session is quite easy. Just select "Join session" in the settings tab to see a list of all hosts on the network (usually 1). Select that host and you will see the current lyrics and the playlist (on an iPad).

If you want to join with a iPhone there is the restriction that the song list will not be visible in portrait mode. You need to use landscape mode and then can increase the size of the song list. There will still be a small chunk of lyrics visible but the song list will be the main information on the screen. See the screenshot below (on an iPhone 11):

NCTRM66

So... just to make sure I understand you.
An iPhone can run the program "individually" and display the song list just like the picture of the iPhone on your homepage. By the way, my iPhone does just so.
But an iPhone can NOT display the the information that way (like the picture of the iPhone on your homepage) if it is connected to an iPad session. We have to follow the method you stated above in your reply.

peter

NCTRM66 But an iPhone can NOT display the the information that way (like the picture of the iPhone on your homepage) if it is connected to an iPad session. We have to follow the method you stated above in your reply.

Yes and neither can an iPad. Only throughput workaround of increasing the width of the song list. But there will always be a slice of lyrics displayed. The focus of network sessions is to display lyrics.

Here is the portrait view on iPhone 11:

NCTRM66

What would be on the screen of the iPhone if you forced the phone to use portrait mode during a session?

NCTRM66

Thank you very much for taking the time to explain this. Knowing that the purpose of the designers, with regard to a session, was for lyrics explains the display's layout. Based on what you've shown me, the program will do what I need it to do.

One more question while we're here... does a person who has joined a session have any control of the start/stop of the song, or the volume/tempo adjustments, or are they just an observer of the content?

peter

Only the host can start/stop playback and select songs. All clients only display what the host does.

NCTRM66

Thank you for your help.

NCTRM66

I have another question...
Some of the places we play do not have WIFI connectivity, so here's the question....

Can the iPhone and the iPad connect in a session without a WIFI connection? The distance between the two devices on stage will be less than 20 feet.

My iphone does not have a simm card in it. I do NOT use it as a phone. It's sole purpose is to run the stageTraxx3 program. If the connection is possible, could you please tell me how to do it.

Thank you once again for your assistance.

peter

Yes it works without wifi but I only recommend that for rehearsals and not for gigs. Because the connection gets very unstable in a room full of people (and phones).

The best solution is to always provide your own wifi network. Just buy a dedicated router for that preferably with a strong 5GHz signal.