Sending Midi commands to Behringer XR18

Jooobs

Apologies if the answer is obvious, but I’m thinking of buying a Behringer XR18 and would like to know if it is possible to send midi commands to change faders on the XR18 via the USB port?
The use case is that our drummer will press play to start a song in Stage Traxx and a midi command would be sent (from an iPad Pro connected via USB to the XR18) to mute the audience\ambient mics…. At the end of the song a midi command would be sent to unmute the audience mics.
Does anyone know if this is possible? Or is there a better way of doing it that I’m not aware of perhaps?

peter

I don't think you can change faders via simple MIDI commands on the XR18. It would need Sysex which ST3 does not support. Maybe check the midi implementation documentation for the XR18.

Jooobs

Thanks for the reply Peter,
The Behringer website seems to suggest it can be done…

Assuming it can, do you think it would it be possible to do from an iPad running ST3 via the USB port?

Jooobs

Actually here’s some more info, I would assume that if you disabled the pass thru option and ensured the USB Rx option was selected, it should in theory work…

peter

OK, in that case it should work.

Gene

Hello all, I've been using this masterpiece with Helix for about 3 years and even forgot where my presets are since everything is switched by Stage Traxx.
However now I'm stuck with Behringer Wing. Can anyone drop me a hint of what should the line [midi....] for scenes change be meaning it's described as MIDI Scene Change (on MIDI CH7)
bank (MSB only), PC 1..128 → Scene number 1..1000 B60000..B60008, C600..C67F

AnthonyB

Gene If someone has a WING, they might be able to give you a specific answer.

I have an X32 and have spent some time delving into the weirdness of Behringer mixer MIDI and OSC over Sysex so am sort of familiar with what might work...

I found this document to be a little clearer - https://cdn.mediavalet.com/aunsw/musictribe/ZUwX-Z1Sn0mIn3n2KAt4fQ/68jQRA4CpEW9-Lx22AA6vg/Original/WING%20Remote%20Protocols%20FW%203.0.6.pdf
Go to p182

CH7 CC0 (bank MSB), CH7 PC 1..128 → Scene number 1..128, number 129..256 on bank MSB 1, etc.

A lot of this depends on how many Scenes are in your Show. Assuming less than 256, then what you might try testing first is something like..

To load scene 1
[midi: CC0.0@7,PC1@7]
To load scene 129
[midi: CC0.1@7,PC1@7]

The Bank MSB part is the value after the CC0 (bank change). I'm assuming it is a value of 0 for Scenes 1-128 and a value of 1 for scenes 129-256.
I've always found you have to keep trying variations, and documenting what you see change on your mixer (if anything), until you find the correct combination.

The last column in the reference table (B60000..B60008, C600..C67F) seems to indicate some form of conversion from something to get to that value, but it's not coming to me first thing this morning. Maybe someone else can answer that or you'll find a reference somewhere.

Worst case, post your question in the Unofficial Behringer forums (https://behringer.world/viewforum.php?f=5), being very specific on the questions (e.g. what would be the specific MIDI command (no OSC/Sysex) to load Scene 2, and/or where do these values "B60000..B60008, C600..C67F" come from? are they visible in the WING UI? Are they a value converted from something else? Is there a table I'm missing that has the conversions?)