Inconsistent MIDI experiences

jmhenry5150

Peter,

I have been setting up MIDI functions with my HX Stomp and want to report my findings. I am not sure if there are bugs with ST (hope not) or if I am just doing something wrong.

I have 2 scenarios where I am seeing something wonky:

Scenario 1 - Select patch when opening a song:
In this command I want to simply select my patch:

[midi: PC3@5]

This works really well unless the 2 songs back to back use the same patch AND a footswitch has been selected.

Steps to reproduce:

Have 2 songs that share the same patch and use the above MIDI command
Load song #1
Select a footswitch
Load song #2

The result is the patch is not resetting itself and turning off the footswitch.

Desired result: After loading a song, it should load the patch with no footswitches selected.

Here is a video of this happening:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1v4vcu002ggrdcc/IMG_6153.MOV?dl=0

Scenario 2 - Select patch when opening a song but with extra footswitch reset commands:
In this command I want to select my patch but turn off footswitches 1 & 2 regardless of if they are on or off:

[midi: PC3@5, CC49.127@5, CC50.127@5]

This has bad inconsistencies and will often turn ON the footswitches instead of turning them off.

Steps to reproduce:

Have 3 songs that use any patches with the above midi command
Bounce between the 3 songs and watch footswitches actually turn on instead of off

The result is the patch is not responding to the footswitch off commands consistently.

Desired result: After loading a song, it should load the patch with no footswitches selected.

Here is a video of this happening:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fmh0vxw74n82q3f/IMG_6152.MOV?dl=0

Hopefully can see what is happening and can offer some advice or possibly there is a bug...

Thanks!

Lishy

jmhenry5150 I would doubt this is a bug and to do with the stomp and out the messages you are sending. Are you sure you have the snapshot edit set to discard? As it seems to be keeping its last state rather than its saved state?
Before checking this and In your second video - when the footswitch turns on for abracadabra, what happens if you manually turn the footswitch off, go onto another song and click back on it? Is the footswitch on or off?

peter

Generally, if you are not sure if the correct commands are sent, you can use a MIDI monitor. Either as an app on the iPad or hook up your midi cable to a computer and use an app there.

I have to concur with Lishy. Check the Helix what happens if you are on program X, change anything and then send a program change for X again. My guess is that as the unit is already in program X it will just ignore the program change.

I any case. Check with a MIDI monitor which commands ST3 sends and if it is not what you expect, the fault is somewhere in the syntax in ST3. If it is what you expect, the fault must be in the Helix.

jmhenry5150

peter thanks Peter, I will take a look and report back.

davedroug

if your using CC to turn on and off the value for off is 0 to 64 the value for on is 65 to 127 if in your line you putCC49.127@5, CC50.127@5] which is ON change the 127 to 0 TO 64 to turn that CC off