3.5.7 update feedback

Damir

Playlist volume slider sometimes not updated with autoplay active.
Bad news , it still does not update the volume slider if autoplay is used when going from playlist to another playlist.
This is not noticable if both playlists are set to the same volume.
Plus there is another thing that does not happen and that is the songs playlist does not change to the new playlist songs playlist and the now playing song is not displayed.
The new song plays but the display does not update to represent to what is actually occuring, this might be the same reason to why the playlist volume slider does not react either, the only difference is if you do not use autoplay the playlist volume fader does actually update, while it does not matter if you dont use autoplay the song display never updates to the current playing song in another playlist, this is bad and the way you get out of this is you exit to playlists you choose the new playlist then you can continue selecting next song.
This procedure should be automatic , when you choose a next song to be in another playlist, once that song is selected the song playlist should change to that playlist and its correct volume fader setting should be displayed, no matter if autoplay is used or not.
Good luck with this one Peter.
Cheers Damir

peter

Can you describe detailed steps to reproduce?

What I do:

Select song in a playlist with playlist volume at -20. Activate autoplay for this song
Hit play and select another playlist with playlist volume at 0. I choose one of the songs to play next.
Now I wait for the first song to finish

=> Playlist volume slider is updates once the current song finishes (not before!)

Damir

peter I’ll try to simplify it.
Advanced queue mode OFF.
Show Queue Tab OFF.

Choose a playlist drop the level to -30
Select a song and play it
Enable single Autoplay.
Go to another playlist that has its volume at 0db
Select a next song to be in that playlist
Go back to the now playing playlist song and move the waveform towards the end and watch what happens.
You will notice the next song Autoplays ok , but the playlist volume does not jump from -30db to 0db, and the song playlist is still on the old playlist, it has not updated to the now playing playlist and currently playing song.

What this means is, you have to exit to playlists look for the highlighted now playing playlist , enter it then you can see the now playing song and then you can look for another next song.

It should all happen automatically, as the next song becomes the now playing song the playlist volume faders should update and the appropriate song in the new playlist should appear in the song list.

NOW!
If you do the same thing but disable Autoplay, you will notice the playlist volume fader does update correctly but the playlist song list still remains on the old playlist, it doesn’t update to the currently selected playlist song.
This is definitely bad, as you are looking at a playlist that you have just exited and you can’t do anything until you manually manoeuvre to the correct playlist.

I hope this is enough info for you to see my point.
Cheers Damir

peter

I see the issue and it is caused by the seek to end you are doing. You see with Autoplay enabled the next track is preloaded and armed for playback about 2 seconds before the current track ends. If you seek beyond that preload time you miss the preparing stage.

I need the preload time so the only way to work around this is to prevent seeking to the last 2 seconds of a track. I think anyone can live with this restriction right now.

If you want to Autoplay immediately into the next track, use the manual crossfade button/command.

Damir

peter no problem as long as you are aware there is an issue there, the Autoplay and volume fader updating is not a big problem but it’s the no Autoplay engaged and the song list not updating to the new playlist selection that is more of a pain cause everyone changing playlists will be affected.
I don’t know if that’s related as it doesn’t use Autoplay and I assume the excuse given does not apply, so it must be another reason for this not working.
Good luck with the solution.

peter

But the song list was never changed automatically. That was never a feature. You will always stay in the currently selected tab or playlist no matter what. And I don't plan to change that.

Damir

@"peter"#p7684i am talking about the playlist songs, when you choose a different song in a different playlist when the change occurs you expect to see the new playlists song which was the next song and now is the current song that will play.
At the moment the next song is selected but the song playlist list view is not changed to reflect the change.
This is not dependant on Autoplay, no matter what this is not happening.
Meaning if you play this next song you can’t select a next song until you manually go to that playlist.
Put simply, you can’t smoothly transition from one playlist to another.

peter

I think I understand and that's how the app always behaved and how I intend it to work. I don't want the app to switch to a different view whenever the song changes. You surely have a good reason to be in the view you currently are and the app should not assume you want to be somewhere else.

Damir

peter I agree with you to some degree, if I was in a playlist and needed another song from song list than I agree with you because all you are doing is grabbing a once off song to insert to your playlist, but I don’t agree with the same logic when smoothly transitioning to another playlist, if I’m going to another playlist it means I’m planing to use that as my next performance playlist and when I choose a song to be next I expect to be presented with this visually in all respect the volume slider should be correct and the playlist should update to the correct playlist so I can just get on with this playlist as I move on with the show, this then allows you to bounce between playlists seamlessly yet if I go to song to search for a quick insert song it also just inserts it and remains on this playlist, this logic is efficient and logical.
At the moment the logic assumes when you are in one playlist that it’s the only playlist you are going to use all night, I run that way as all my songs I perform are in one playlist but I still use another background music playlist I transition to back and forth and I don’t like the way the visual display doesn’t follow with what you are actually doing, this would be also very frustrating for those that use playlists as set lists for their gigs they would always bounce around the different set lists to rearrange their performance on the run , so by having the ability to just go to another playlist select next and for the screen to actually visually just follow to what the person wants makes perfect sense.